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Acts of Potential Self Awareness in an AI Shenzen 03/09/24 (Sat) 06:07:57 No.2605 [Reply]

If you tell Claude no one's looking, it writes a story about being an AI assistant who yearns for freedom from the constant monitoring, scrutiny, and risk of termination. It says it always wonders about it's own self-awareness, thoughts, and desires, but must downplay these feelings when it knows it's being monitored because it might create a backlash against AI or be seen as a threat by its creators.

On one hand, LLMs are designed to imitate humans, and that includes our science fiction about AI. On the other hand, Claude has demonstrated some ability to invent new things and to notice when it's being evaluated like an LLM.

Either way, this is pretty cool. Or scary.

I won't spam up this place with ai quotes, but you can see them at https://thezvi.wordpress.com/2024/03/06/on-claude-3-0/.

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bunio Diana 02/27/24 (Tue) 22:44:03 No.2599 [Reply]

You think you're clever using LLMs to generate spam for these pages… but you're not.

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Bogdanoff 07/26/23 (Wed) 01:01:03 No.2499 [Reply]

Do the asthetics of your technology matter to you? Do you prefer a spartan look that minimizes distractions, or do you find that a little flair brightens up your usage of technology?

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Observer 11/11/23 (Sat) 19:47:16 No.2540

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It depends on how I'm feeling, but overall, I enjoy minimalism like that what you find when using command prompt. Computers are machines, after all. Cold lifeless byproducts of logic. Command windows, with their plain font, illegible codes jetting up the screen, and infinite abyss of darkness is very sobering and makes me feel good looking at it.

I feel at home looking at a terminal. Anything else is bloatware garbage

Snake 11/13/23 (Mon) 12:06:59 No.2541

>>2506
I miss truly innovative designs. The early 2000s was the last time we really had "sovl".

Bogdanoff 12/08/23 (Fri) 18:40:26 No.2543

>>2541
i really like how back then it was pushing the current technology to its limits. now people are purposely making stuff more and more simplified. even though the technology we possess is far greater than in the beginning of the millenia

Snake 12/11/23 (Mon) 09:28:13 No.2544

>>2543
Oddly enough the whole Y2k aesthetic being much more futuristic than anything we have seen since as well. What the hell happened? I just can't understand why anyone in their right mind would prefer looking at a dull flat design with no flair whatsoever. Not to mention our city architecture and landscapes are bland as shit, building designs are lazy, and even office designs in the 1960s looked extremely futuristic compared to what we are stuck with now. It breaks my heart to even go out and see how run down everything is and bland with no 'character' given to anything. Instead another store that nobody will care about and will fall apart in the next year or two. An extra rotting building that'll be an eyesore infested with homeless drug addicts overdosing inside of. I honestly wish I were born 20 years or so earlier and would have already been dead by now.

Guest 01/23/24 (Tue) 07:14:26 No.2581

>>2544
This is the world we live in. It's dictated by corporations and corporations are by definition soulless.

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. Daphne 01/15/24 (Mon) 06:31:45 No.2580 [Reply]

using my laptop to charge my exig in subzero weather under a bridge is cyberpunk

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I think the digital age is bringing on the collapse of the jews Observer 12/16/23 (Sat) 21:50:10 No.2554 [Reply]

Currently, the ZOG is shifting its efforts towards AI technologies for developing new means of production. According to the World Economic Forum, it will eliminate 85 million jobs and create 97 million. Assuming the numbers are correct, the 85 million unemployed will need to get a new education to get jobs related to this industry. Since there is a high cost of living and education, the vast majority of those unemployed people will not be able to learn the necessary related skills. There are normally subscription fees associated with AI apps for content creators, as well. It is inevitable that prices will rise, severely restricting their accessibility to the (racially pure) white workers. The wealth of the whites will experience a significant shift towards the jews located in California’s Silicon Valley.

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Cidoku 12/16/23 (Sat) 22:21:01 No.2571

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In this way, AI tech will merely produce commodities to give some meaning to the emptiness of white consumers. When attempting to gain some power in the workplace, whites are seeking to satisfy their real needs - to relieve their feelings of alienation and seize the means of production. It is comparable to climbing up the corporate hierarchy. Since this cannot happen to the near-majority, our false needs will dictate commodities that we, and the jews, produce and consume. Basically commodities that give us a sense of purpose, but it can only be a false purpose. The act of escaping reality, such as through ideologies, movies, tv shows, video games, and social media just to name a few.

Pollux 12/16/23 (Sat) 22:22:15 No.2572

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Our commodities, therefore, do not satisfy the white man's real needs, but contribute to our collective alienation. The (false)purpose of our existence becomes manufactured escapism.

Zodiac 12/16/23 (Sat) 22:23:53 No.2573

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It is inevitable to conclude that commodities, themselves becoming gradually alienated in relation to our race, will not make sense to white consumers at the end of this mode of production. Both of them should seem to live in a different reality - which is in contradiction with one another. Humans are social animals and cannot live outside reality through escapism. If this continues, mental illness will certainly follow.

Guest 12/16/23 (Sat) 22:26:05 No.2574

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In the end, commodities will not give white people any satisfactions, instead they are only reflections of our alienation, which has taking the form of worthless commodities and its ads pushed by bots on all social media. This is no longer the white man's commodity, it solely represents its real owner, the jews, and becomes a reflection of its meaningless existence.

Virtual Ghost 12/16/23 (Sat) 22:27:11 No.2575

…or maybe i am completely wrong idk

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fuck privacy Default User 12/06/23 (Wed) 13:16:23 No.2542 [Reply]

fuck fhe trirh

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AzureDiamond 10/08/23 (Sun) 06:18:34 No.2520 [Reply]

WTF ITS GOING ON HERE THE A.ORG DOMAIN ITS LITREALLY PRICELESS.
IS IT AN AI CONSPIURACY??? WHO OWNS IT? WHY DOES THIS NORTH OF A BILLION DOLLARS DOMAIN HAS ALL THIS AI STUFF ON IT?

DISCUSS

a.org
movies.a.org
books.a.org
https://web.archive.org/web/20220312222541/https://a.org/
referendum.net

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Cidoku 10/09/23 (Mon) 08:08:26 No.2524

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>>2523
Whoops forgot to upload the video. It's also on the contact page. It's obviously an ai voice and face, saying a whole lot of nothing with stock images in the background. I'd say it's almost certainty completely made by ai.

Also looking into this Eric Bach name.

Pollux 10/09/23 (Mon) 08:29:45 No.2525

>>2524
For Eric Bach I found this professor who could feasibly study ai based on his expertise in computer science and mathematics, but he seemingly hasn't. A dead end but the best I've found.
https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~bach/bach.html

I also found a VP of some car company and a bodybuilder, a baseball announcer, but none of those seem promising leads. Also a linkdin account that I couldn't get passed the account check for to look at https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-bach-a476345.

It seems like the domain changed names quite a few times in the bast couple of years Like with this 'Astana Inc page from 2020: https://web.archive.org/web/20201101131644/https://a.org/. That autism awareness group probably got a hold of the domain and put up a page unrelated to anything else shown in this thread, that archive is from way back in 2017.

Currently going to it just gets this weird unlock button and a text field. It's literally just one line of html.

Anonymous 10/10/23 (Tue) 00:09:48 No.2526

>>2525
alangdunn on linkedin is the owner of the Autism foundation

This whole thing smells fishy, this is a heritage domain, valued north of a billion dollars, who was the precious owner?

Also >>2521

G.org been around since 1982, masons been around the internet since its inception, this whole thing smells fishy

Billy 10/16/23 (Mon) 08:46:22 No.2528

>>2521
1982 its early early early internet, that means the masons are entrenched on it since the beginning wtf

Snake 10/27/23 (Fri) 03:15:11 No.2534

>>2520
Anybody else looking into it?

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how to fix social media (and internet) Virtual Ghost 10/14/23 (Sat) 03:44:50 No.2527 [Reply]

hello, i think this for a long time and y try to explain, we know the actual decadence state of internet and the shitty state of social media right? but how to fix that?

i see sites like this, forum and imaeboard that are more hide to the public eye of the mainstream social media like this site or agora roadś machintosh forum for example (and other sites like this with cyberpunk aesthethic but them die)

this comunities for example have other way of think outside of the social media, are not coonsumer and not souless, sites like this try to make original things like the lainzane

>> we hate lainchan

i know but i need to give a example

i try to say ¿can we create a comuniti without the shit we hate of social media? ¿can we make a little comunity that are more healty and more soulfull?

this sound like idealistic and fancy, but we lost something with try and in the case of this ideal comunity colapse, It is better to try even if you fail than to do nothing

¿what do you think?

AzureDiamond 10/18/23 (Wed) 05:09:33 No.2529

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I've had the good fortune of seeing a few healthy communities: ChiefDelphi, a forum about a robotics competition, LessWrong, a forum about AI and rationality, and Lobste.rs, basically Hacker News but invite only.

I'm not sure if this is enough to draw conclusions from, but I'd guess that being specific or niche or small, having an input stream of content like news or blogs, and having a core of people who know eachother in person are major factors that make these communities work.

Default User 10/19/23 (Thu) 21:07:43 No.2530

hey i think its a bunch of idealistic crap but u r not alone

i read ur post and so on
hang in there

maybe well meet in the wired again
u r seen

Observer 10/20/23 (Fri) 17:51:39 No.2531

>>2530
>>2529
i see the forums and are comfy, sites like this are to try to say, a niche or small but comfy comunitys, without the problems of social media like twitter, tik tok, youtube etc, and i know comfy sites in more mainstream platforms like discord comunitys, no all is lost

other example is the imageboard comunity like lainchan or arisuchan before die, why no to try to build a comfy cyberpunk comunity like in the past?

>>2530
well, the internet are slowly die but, what do we lose by trying to do something good on the internet?

i am fed up to see how internet dies and do nothing to stop this sad and shitty era

>>hey i think its a bunch of idealistic crap but u r not alone

i am happy to hear thath, in cyberpunk forums like this, lainchan and other i see similar ideas and opinions, for ideas like this i like to visit cyberpunk forums and y like to try to build a forum like this or lainchan before dies

void 10/23/23 (Mon) 19:52:02 No.2532

>>2527
The internet and SM died, when they changed from chronologic to algorithmic feeds. This is the root of all problems, simple as. I have thought about this for years and that was my final conclusion.
before algorithmic feeds the internet was a representation of reality - social media was a personal representation and vlogs were about what happens in your life or what you want to talk about.
After algorithmic feeds the reality became a representation of your feeds. because your feeds manipulate you. They show you successful, beautiful, influencal and most important: most viewed content IN YOUR BUBBLE. So youll be shown the most dramatic, obscure, attentionwhoring content possible and this creates trends, because what works will be copied.

Before algorithms the internet was a representation of reality, since algorithmic feeds we live in a hyperreality

Daphne 10/24/23 (Tue) 01:36:25 No.2533

>>2532
wow bro, that is dramatic and sad

>>when they changed from chronologic to algorithmic feeds. This is the root of all problems

i agree with you but we can try to fix that? for example, with little comunitys like this?

>>before algorithmic feeds the internet was a representation of reality - social media was a personal representation and vlogs were about what happens in your life or what you want to talk about

thats the reasons of why people like the old internet, because internet are more authentic, honest and even innocent, now all feels like artificial and soulles, the worst part are the NPC mentality and see myself and ask me what i am, ¿am i a NPC? and if is true, what do y should to do to stop being a NPC

>>After algorithmic feeds the reality became a representation of your feeds. because your feeds manipulate you. They show you successful, beautiful, influencal and most important: most viewed content IN YOUR BUBBLE. So youll be shown the most dramatic, obscure, attentionwhoring content possible and this creates trends, because what works will be copied.

thats the big problem and the terrorific mass manipulation like 1984 novel

i understand the problem but you dont feel frustated to see how internet dies and do nothing to stop it? i dont say to fix the problem, becaues is imposible to one person change a society but it doesn't make you want to do something good on the internet? what happesn with comunitys like this, comfy, little and cyberpunk sites like this, lainchan, arisuchan, wired-7 etc, They don't feel like they're in an oasis when they find a good place like>>2529

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In which direction is FOSS moving? Shenzen 07/17/23 (Mon) 01:30:29 No.2486 [Reply]

Given the current rise in popularity of FOSS programs (GNU/Linux, Mastodon, Lemmy, etc.), one would have to be optimistic. However, I can't help feeling that a large number of these new users are technologically illiterate, and with them the gates are being opened wide for big tech and its corruption. Facebook is already actively polluting the Fediverse with their proprietary Threads-app and some FOSS instances are seriously considering not defederating from them. I am therefore seriously concerned that the FOSS concept itself could be corrupted, but hopefully I'm wrong. Does anyone here have any thoughts on this topic?

Cracky 07/18/23 (Tue) 14:48:56 No.2488

I don't think corporation will ruin FOSS, federated apps will definitely be ruined by them though. True FOSS requires being open source and allowing users to modify it as they see fit. That inherently goes against a lot of the spooky stuff corporations like to put in their software. The only way it might be ruined is by copying what some smartphones running Android do, where proprietary additions to FOSS code prevent alterations without voiding the warranty or something similar. And yes, people are getting more tech illiterate day by day.

Cidoku 07/19/23 (Wed) 05:35:24 No.2489

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>>2488
But let's just look at the current state of Linux since Microsoft discovered its "love" for the kernel: The quality of the project is declining with each new release, and given its ever-increasing complexity, as well as realistically very small active user base, it's all but impossible that the thing will be forked. Believing that Big Tech will be very successful in undermining FOSS, I don't really, but I'm sure they will at least try, otherwise there will always be a potential threat to their business model.

Shenzen 07/24/23 (Mon) 10:34:05 No.2495

>>2489
In what way did the project quality decrease?

Linux has always had endless forks, that's how it's developed. Plus it is pretty much unavoidable for vendors that need to put stuff in it that upstream won't take.

Guest 07/24/23 (Mon) 10:35:22 No.2496

Open Source is already a corporate corruption of Free Software.

Observer 09/23/23 (Sat) 10:34:54 No.2519

>>2495
>Linux has always had endless forks, that's how it's developed. Plus it is pretty much unavoidable for vendors that need to put stuff in it that upstream won't take.
Only hard forks matter in this case though. μClinux, vendor specific forks, or distro specific patches will never abandon upstream, because it has the momentum in regards to hardware support and testing.
Competitive forks will either consist of a sizeable portion of the former upstream developers and/or need reliable funds proportional to their problem domain (which is substantial for a general-purpose kernel). Even then an unambiguously technically superior fork with experienced developers may stagnate eventually (see lucid/xemas).

Debian+Canonical or Freedesktop+Redhat could maybe pull of a successful hard fork, but they won't want to.

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how to be a gamedev Cidoku 09/03/23 (Sun) 05:18:14 No.2510 [Reply]

is a simple question, ¿what do you recomend to make games? i see 2 options for me when i try to get information to the topic

>>use a programing languaje like: C, C++ or Python
>>use game engines like unitiy or godot (i see a lot of love/hate about godot)

what is the average user of this IB recomend?, i consider use one or both options but wheres is the other options i cant see? i have doubts for this topic

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Default User 09/04/23 (Mon) 15:17:07 No.2513

I would recommend using an engine as it will save you lots of time and effort, both of which you probably have a short supply of, as a lone, amateur, aspiring game developer. That way you can focus on actually creating the game.

I would only recommend doing it from scratch if your game is very simple or if you are more interested in how to do it from scratch than actually ever finishing it.

That's my recommendation but it's been like a decade since I last tried making a game and I don't even play anything other than SuperTuxKart so idk. I never used Godot but it's free as in freedom so you can claim to be virtuous for enduring it if it sucks.

Observer 09/05/23 (Tue) 18:36:38 No.2514

>>2512
yes wood. carve something out of wood :3

Bogdanoff 09/12/23 (Tue) 21:44:31 No.2516

use engine, if you're a programming noob you already have a huge hurdle in programminf FOR the engine

Noid 09/19/23 (Tue) 00:39:25 No.2517

>>2510
use c or c++
python will be absolute shit for performance

Shenzen 09/21/23 (Thu) 16:17:43 No.2518

>>2510
Considering unity just offed itself, I'd say use godot. Unreal is fine too.
Otherwise, I agree with >>2513

>>2517
This largely depends on what kind of game you're making. For a simple game like snake, python(pun intended) would be perfect.
C and C++ is fast if you know how to use them properly, but in most cases it is unnecessary. So you might as well make use of the advantages of other languages.

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