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 No.2725[Reply]

post some pics n00bz
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 No.2740

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>>2739
I think most people view the wires as something we put down a long time ago and just kind of have to deal with. Modern internet is very cellular, and often these towers all bum off of just one tower that has a physical connection to the internet lines when they have to, exchanging information with each other back and forth otherwise. Also, as you point out, computers are going more mobile - the thought of the phone as the work computer is a few years old at this point. Nonetheless, the truth is that the Internet is home in those wires, so perhaps the wants and desires of the people and their infrastructure mean nothing when put up against that.

The comparison to modern architecture is really one of the main contributors to aging a work. In current year, the idea that a computer might not have a specific processing unit for graphics and instead just work off of a board for video, and that one would have to imagine the processing unit as some kind of future technology with a different name, just sounds ridiculous, absolute steampunk behavior by modern standards. Then again, though, some of that kind of archaic hardware implementation persists to this day. I was surprised to see that sound cards are still manufactured and have a dedicated user base. Though, of course, I don't hold all of that against Lain; as I said, I don't know a work past or present so good at combining technical knowledge and cultural knowledge when it comes to computers and the Internet. It's like the Web is such an eldritch being that no one can understand it.

With all of that said, I am curious as to why exactly Zoomers grabbed on to the show like the have. At this point, it's been too persistent to merely label it as random algorithm trends. Lain has always, it seems, been a kind of dogwhistle for the terminally online, something you show to let others know you're one of those people who has lived and who will die online. When I say that, though, I think of contemporary examples of living and dying on the internet, and they seem to not really resonate with the image of Lain, both as the people they are and when the situation they are in is examined. You would think that Zoomers would move on from Lain, so to speak, to something that more literally resembles their internet selves, but there is something that makes her ever relevant. I feel again my ignorance is trying to pPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2740

>Nonetheless, the truth is that the Internet is home in those wires, so perhaps the wants and desires of the people and their infrastructure mean nothing when put up against that.

yes, i believe that to be true as well. also, it's very interesting how zoomers are starting to pick up on proper home computing - not all of them, of course, but you can see more and more pictures of homelab setups or even entire server racks assembled in someone's room, for different reasons and purposes. i don't know whether it was a similar thing before with previous generations, but i can somewhat compare it to the rise of microcomputers back in the 80s and early 90s, when some portion of the youth got access to Commodores and ZX Spectrums and whatnot. but since now the hardware is much more potent and relatively cheaper than it used to be, and many forums and discussion groups existing - it's way simpler to get into home computing today than 40 years ago or so.

>Then again, though, some of that kind of archaic hardware implementation persists to this day. I was surprised to see that sound cards are still manufactured and have a dedicated user base.
>Though, of course, I don't hold all of that against Lain; as I said, I don't know a work past or present so good at combining technical knowledge and cultural knowledge when it comes to computers and the Internet.

well, a lot of the standards and systems that we still use to this day in a newer version were developed around the time SE:L came out, late 90s and somewhat into the 00s - like PCI(1997, PCI Express came out in 2003), SATA(2000), Gigabit Ethernet(June 1998, funnily enough), and of course, WWW(1994). it's not really archaic, it's just that the computer marked shifted from professionals and enthusiasts to the average consumer, so the tech had to get smaller and simpler to interact with, in fact making it way more complex internally. so the things evolved rapidly since then, sure, but we are still using a lot of stuff that was working pretty much the same way 25-30 years ago, if not earlier. i mean, hell - commercial UNIX is still a thing, not to say about it's direct(BSD) and indirect(Linux) successors. though, maybe it's just me seeing it differently because most of my work is associated with hardwarPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Everything you've said so far seems to make sense, at least to me, hah. Most of the people I know who run home servers like that are just data hoarders. I know one guy who actually hosts a server to stream movies from himself, but otherwise it's just space for people to download a bunch of stuff. Usually it's movies and shows, but it can also be YouTube videos, video games, books, drawings and photographs, along with other random software and such. At least from my experience. I joined on the hoarding train myself in an attempt to help preserve a certain website that ceased hosting recently, but I'm using a measly 12 TB drive for that. Most people I know start at 32 for their collections, usually in 4-8 TB segments and with at least one complete set of 4-8 TB backup drives. It's all about data preservation. I also know a lot of people who like to collect computers, open them up and upgrade them and mess with their OS, et cetera. It's quite depressing, though, because they seem to not know a lot about how computers work - they couldn't build their own operating software or anything like that, certainly, and even I surpass their knowledge in diagnostics sometimes, which gives me secondhand embarrassment, haha. That's just my experience though.

My experience with old computers is a lot of what informs my opinions on computing evolution, I guess. I don't really know what a GPU is, but I know enough about it for personal maintenance, like what connections might need to be resoldered if it stops working, et cetera. A sound card from 1994 or such seems to hold no similarities with the modern incarnation; none of my knowledge of the modern thing is able to be backported, I don't know what I'm looking at. Though, I'm kind of just ill and obsessed, and that wouldn't hold a candle to professionally working with the hardware; I don't mean to talk over you in that regard.

I think software has always been rapidly changing, hasn't it? I don't think there was even ten years of difference between Microsoft BASIC and Apple's GUI operating software. There's hundreds of examples of that kind of thing. I think a timely microcosm would be Adobe Flash. Flash Internet and Post-Flash Internet are nigh incomparable in a lot of senses, not just on how they operate but how the culture interacted with the software. I also think you understate the demographics change a bit; it's not just that the product became mainstream, it's that it became ubiquitous. Ten years agPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>>2742

>It's all about data preservation. I also know a lot of people who like to collect computers, open them up and upgrade them and mess with their OS, et cetera. It's quite depressing, though, because they seem to not know a lot about how computers work - they couldn't build their own operating software or anything like that, certainly, and even I surpass their knowledge in diagnostics sometimes, which gives me secondhand embarrassment, haha. That's just my experience though.

i have seen this as well. and i'm afraid i have to admit - i also have fallen pray to hoarding. i have my trusty poweredge r730 humming in the background 24/7, hosting services for me and my friends, as well as storing terabytes of whatever media i come across. but i could never for the life of me write any decent and useful software myself, let alone an operating system. that's a massive skill issue on my part because i never really tried to do programming myself, even though i want to.

hmm, actually, now that i have a lot more free time on my hands…

>I think software has always been rapidly changing, hasn't it?
>Ten years ago, every high school kid was plugged in, and now people ten years younger than we were then are plugging in.

true, especially now that even a non-technical person can prompt an LLM to write a specific program for any usecase. 12 year olds vibecode roblox cheats or whatever they play nowadays.

>I do remember that feeling of finally getting a phone in high school, spending as much time in class as feasible sitting and talking with other people from around the world and being the only one doing that - it wasn't that no one else had phones, of course, but others were either trying to be good students and not on them or were playing Fortnite or some other game. Maybe that's why I find the Lain obsession so odd; everyone I know is a normie when it comes to internet stuff. I assume a bit of obsession with the internet onto Lain that I don't really see reflected in the demographic. Maybe that's another changing of the times, maybe I'm looking for a reaction from ten or twenty years ago and not paying attention to the culture enough.

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>>2743
Apologies for forgetting to tag your post before. Data hoarding is really easy to be mammon about because it shrugs off the apparent consequences the real-world equivalent has. Typical hoarders will make their entire house an unlivable wreck; data hoarders might raise the energy bill a bit too high. I fear the affects on the heart are the same, but there are genuine reasons to download stuff. It takes more energy to redownload content repeatedly, and having a physical copy ensures reliability. I always download a PDF etc I want to read, for example. There's quite a few links and such I've lost now that I would still have if I saved it and never deleted it. Best of luck with learning coding and such.

I'm not in a position to say how artificial intelligence will effect our internet of things. It seems to use a lot of energy, I guess. I see it as a bad thing, but then I have a bad habit of seeing the development of the internet as a whole as a trek into the mouth of hell one step at a time. Though touching on Roblox does make me think of the stagnation it feels like the Internet is about to fall into. Every major platform now has established history. I shudder a little to imagine that people fifty years from now will be looking up "2020 aesthetics" on Pinterest still, that nothing better will have taken its place. Even video games have succumbed to that kind of thing, beyond Roblox; Overwatch 2 is just Overwatch, Counter-Strike 2 is just Global Offensive. I guess that's just how software works though, you can have your ship and rebuild it too. Though I just said that hasty obsolescence was how software worked, heh. I can't tell which side will win out at this point.

I don't know that the Internet helped me at all with my connections. In fact, it seems to have ruined what little connection and ability to connect I did have. I don't want to dismiss all the stories I hear to the contrary, as suspicious as I like to be, but I can say confidently those things were not what I found. My peers could at least infer things about me through being around me; it feels like being understanding is not something the Internet is capable of. I could relate to my real-life peers at least a little before the internet, but now I fear that I've entered such a dire spiral of eclectic specialization that I'll never really get along with anyone ever again. Yet, at the saPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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 No.8473[Reply]

Cuando los militares de alto rango norteamericanos, soviéticos, británicos y chinos tuvieron acceso a las informaciones guardadas por los Nazis y los miembros de la Sociedad Thule y Vril sobre la existencia de seres de otros mundos y los documentos que fueron rescatados y confirmados posteriormente, comenzó un nuevo ciclo en el proceso de la evolución de la humanidad. Sin embargo, no de toda la humanidad como Hitler planeaba en la época, pues para eso tendría que haber exterminado por completo la sociedad Cábala‑Vaticano y sus tentáculos, que estaban presentes en todos los países a través de la religión y de las estructuras económicas de bancos e industrias, o sea, la base de la sociedad humana estaba, y aún está, bajo su dominio. Por lo tanto esta nueva sociedad humana tendría que ser también secreta y selecta en extremo para poder generar en un plazo estimado de 50 años una estructura secreta y lo bastante poderosa para poder dejar la Tierra y crear sus nuevas bases y lugares para vivir más allá de nuestra órbita.

Los militares sabían que si se enfrentaban a la Orden Secreta de la Cábala-Illuminati y toda la estructura política y religiosa habría otro holocausto como la 2ª Guerra Mundial y tendrían que dar continuidad a la línea dura de Hitler y sus equipos. Por este motivo fue escogido el camino dividir a la humanidad e iniciar los proyectos genéticos que les permitieran entender los documentos que los nazis habían elaborado para la eugenesia del ADN humano con la intención de acelerar el proceso evolutivo de la raza humana, de forma que ésta pudiera encuadrarse en las exigencias de los extraterrestres con los que mantenían contacto. Con esta línea de acción y evolución de los contactos quedó demarcado de forma categórica la total exclusión de la mayor parte de la humanidad de la verdad sobre la realidad extraterrestre y lo más importante, el hecho de que Dios nunca existió en la forma que aparece en las antiguas escrituras, pues sólo algunos extraterrestres vinieron a la Tierra y cada uno realizó experimentos que dieron origen a las diferentes etnias humanas que con el tiempo, y siguiendo a sus creadores, terminaron por entrar en conflicto de poder con las otras etnias humanas, como ocurrió desde el principio con las disputas de poder de las etnias de Mesopotamia y las restantes sociedades humanas.

Al evaluar esta situación vais a poder entender porque el SGS fue creado más allá de las diferentes religiones y dogmas de la humanidad, pPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.8472[Reply]

Decreto en nombre de mi Alma,usando
mi Libre Albedrio,que es mi Voluntad
Manifestar,la Decapitacion de Yuval
Noah Harari,Bill Gates,Klaus Schwab y Peter Brabeck-Letmathe.
Expando esta Voluntad en Toda Direccion
y Flujo de Tiempo.

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 No.8471[Reply]

En nombre de mi Yo Superior,usando mi Libre Albedrio Decreto Esto:
Rechazo el Transhumanismo.Rechazo el Silicio.
Es mi Voluntad Ascender en Avatar Diamante Luciferasa Ser de Luz Khechari Mudra de 13D.
Soy un Ser de Luz Fibonacci Infinito.
Rechazo el Hecho de la Elite Globalista Satanica este viva.
Todos esos Hijos de Puta deben ser cortados a Pedazos,porque ya han sido Cortados a Pedazos.Linchados como la Annunaki Swaruu Dice.
Esta Voluntad la expando en Toda Direccion y Flujo de Tiempo.

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 No.8417

understand this for your future endeavors

 No.8426

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read every number
(actually this is intriguing i think i see a pattern but idk)

 No.8441

>>8440
ke riko oie
ToT

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 No.8469

frontpage


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 No.8460[Reply]

Perhaps I can help keep this imageboard alive. Call me Diod. I am a young woman who makes politically extreme video essays (no facefagging, just meme slideshows) and I need your input.

My goal is to merge the algorithms. Anarchists, communists, fascists, propertarians, liberals, conservatives, etc… must all see each others view points. The truth is that the algorithms are already merging in a sense, as we can tell from the shared linguistics being used from the left and right (leftists say 'goyslop' and rightwingers say 'lived experience'!)

I am here to accelerate this process that is currently in motion, in a directed, smoother way. I think my video essays can serve as a means to accomplish this. Through aggressive cross-posting in vastly different spaces, people from all different backgrounds will come together and learn about/discuss the ideas presented in the videos. I know I can contribute to a more intellectually focused, calmer culture online. What do you think? https://youtu.be/PPad5LADvo0

 No.8466

Will check them out later today and let you know. But you came to the wrong place if you want advertisement, this board is dead as hell.

 No.8467

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>>8460
i think it would be easier to unite people without politics being involved


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 No.8401[Reply]

Out of the loop.Cool picrel is cool.

 No.8428

got raided by a soyjak party splinter

 No.8444

This place has been raided many times.

 No.8449

this place has been dead for as long as i can remember


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 No.3208[Reply]

is linux still cyberpunk or do i need to switch to the BSDs? i wanna be hip with the kids
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 No.3210

>>3209
it's that bad huh :|

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OpenBSD is amazing, but people haven't catched up because the average is retarded. You're not gonna hip with anyone.

>>3209
Lain over here complains about firefox issues but they are to be expected, that's what happens when you use retarded software. Sadly Firefox is a must most of the time.

Other than that, non-retarded software works fine and the package selection is pretty good if you ask me. You may find minor inconveniences on the software side and major inconviniences with hardware drivers (what happened to me).

Don't chicken from trying because OpenBSD is the easiest thing to set up

 No.3212

>>3211
I'll explain myself a little bit more:
OpenBSD has nice features and lacks a ton of features (which is good, actually). It has a nice shell and it's a true minimalist. The package manager has a pretty good selection of software, most good apps are available and if not, you can just compile programs yourself.

There are hardware related issues here and there, it's whatever. That's the only real holdup. If you can handle those, I encourage the change

 No.3213

>>3212
>true minimalist
I mean that it doesn't have SoystemD and the core of the system is extremely minimal compared to Linux.

 No.3217

>>3208
does any linux distro support CS6 or older physical adobe library of tools? yeah yeah big tech and whatever but they make a damn good product and it's nice to use


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 No.2718[Reply]

First

 No.2719

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We're gonna lain you, buddy.

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lain


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 No.8446[Reply]

One.

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>>8451
Femboy addict!


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 No.3214[Reply]

Shortform video is a digital opiate and chatbots are a digital propsychotic. What would a digital stimulant look like?

 No.3215

I don't know that a digital stimulant is possible. If you try to overload the brain sensors a la TikTok, you end up backfiring and causing lethargy. If you try to knock a specific method of sensory really hard a la Ryoji Ikeda, you really only end up driving the person crazy. You would somehow have to hit motivating neurons in a wide manner without exceeding their capacity and/or hit them in a way that inspires healthy action and not geeking out and collecting flashlights or something.

 No.3216

A bunch of colorful flashes and random sounds coming from a screen. This is what comes to my mind when I think about a digital stimulant.


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 No.8400[Reply]

No one is here…..
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 No.8436

>>8435
if you're here and i'm here then we're here!

 No.8437

yet no one is here

 No.8439

Eh, couple peeps pop by occasionally. That's the appeal~

 No.8445

I forget to check this place.

 No.8458

I'm here. I forgot wirechan for a while, but I always come back.


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 No.8454[Reply]

if you dont know the context it isnt for you
i wont reply to this

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 No.1186[Reply]

first post of the imageboard

wordswordswords

 No.1187

>>1186
NO SOY FAN DE EPSTEIN, CARNAL
NO SOY FAN DE CUTIES, CARNAL

 No.1188

better than anime tbqh


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 No.2723[Reply]

I hope dysphoric lainanon is hanging in there, wherever they are.

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