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Talk about old computers or other tech you've given a new home. An old enterprise PC turn production/gaming rig, an old laptop resurrected with Linux, etc. What orphaned computer do you take care of /cy/?


Most of my gear consists of Frankenstein monsters that I've salvaged and-or repaired. Currently grieving the death of an old video card that finally fried out in an old Windows XP tower that I curb scored. It was nice to have a dedicated machine for retro gaming, not having to worry about possible wine hiccups with certain PC games and emulating older console games.
I once took in a stray that spent an entire winter outside covered in snow and ice. Thought maybe I could get a few spare parts out of it, but somehow it survived the elements intact. Not even a wrecked capacitor on the mobo from the extreme temperatures. That little miracle's hostname is snowcrash. It was going to be thrown away, but it handles some audio for me now.


I have a refurbished corporate laptop as my daily. Still spent way too much money on it.


Rocking a Thinkpad X201 Tablet with the 1GHz i5-M520UM. Have Q4OS with Trinity Desktop installed on it and it works well enough for fucking around on the internet, writing, music, etc.

Got a Windows XP/Vista box with a Core 2 E8600 and a HD 7850 setup to play older games on that I use frequently.

If it works and I have a use for it I try to keep something from ending up as ewaste.


I have an old laptop somewhere that a family member gave me because it broke. I think it has something to do with the power supply. Once I get it working again I think I use it to run some ToR relays. And when I graduate I'm going to use my old school pc as either a ToR browsing machine or more Tor Relays.

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How often does a computer needs to be cleaned?


Do you mean physically or digitally?


Physically… wait, computers need to be cleaned digitally?


Physically I'd say it depends on your sense of what dirty and clean means and on how often you clean your housing in general. In a dusty home your computer will be more likely to be dusty.
I clean my computer (tower) rarely, maybe every few months.
My mouse rarely because I have relatively clean hands.
My keyboard every once in a while (cotton swabs between keys). Like every 1-3 months
and my monitor depends but not too often as well.
Well depends on what youre doing w/ it. And if you expect to potentially be visited by our guarding friends.

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Is SystemD really bad or is 4chan /g/ just being retarded?
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>Are there any just works distros without it?
Devuan: https://www.devuan.org/

But I personally prefer Gentoo and Artix but they don't have much installed by default and they don't have installers (you need to install them "manually" by extracting a tarball and then you need to install everything you need).


Artix has installers. Though it won't help you with things like GPU drivers.


I'm using Alpine at the moment on my laptop, it has a pretty nice BSD-like installer and uses OpenRC as the init system and service manager. It's good, simple and minimalistic for a Linux distro, but what annoyed me at first was the lack of man-pages, apropos etc. in a fresh install.


One thing systemd got right is replacing the crontab, which has a crusty opaque syntax, with timer files, which are so much clearer and more explicit.

systemctl list-timers


I've been running Artix for a year or so now but unfortunately the system fried itself for no real reason 3 times now. Twice the the computer suddenly doesn't finde the OS anymore when booting and the other time I had a really weird bug that made me not use any programs, when my connectivity changed (entered VPN, LAN on/off). I don't manipulate any system files and really just install stuff via pacman.
I think I'm gonna reinstall it again, cause I really like it, but is that something that happens only to me? Or is my dual boot (not the same hard drive) the root of the problem?

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How do you obtain cheap hard drives for data hoarding?


I buy used drives from server farms.


Any place online I can do this?


Retail stores and offices will dump their shit in the trash without a second look, Just mingle with the junkies and go diving.


Why would server farms throw out drives if they were working tho?


Because every hard drive has a safe running time f.e. 6, 8 or 10 years. After this time, they are likely to run another 2 or 5 years but it's a higher risk. Also destroying them in a safe way in order to get a data privacy cert is expensive.

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With the direction humanity is going its pretty easy to get the cyberpunk asthethic, but what would be some polar opposite examples in society?(urban, not some random village in africa or something like solarpunk).
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I'm glad we agree that it's punk af.


taking government prescribed drugs meant to fix you is punk af


Do you mean sleepytime dreams or visions of the future.


*or yearning ideals


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I want to get a schway bike for cruising and freedommaxxing, so I will probably buy something from before year 2k, so I wouldnt have to bother with digital repair systems.
Unfortunately I just can't decide what kind of style I want to drive with. I think all of them are fun as fuck and while I guess that cruisin through the city on a nice cruiser or chopper styled bike, I also think that a more sporty alternative would feel schway.
Obviously 1 is the most /cyber/ because it's a customization of 5 but I haven't got any mechanical experience yet.

What would you recommend from a /cyber/ perspective and why?

Also talk about schway /cyber/ vehicles in general, may it be concepts, upcoming, existing or custom vehicles.


99 beige corolla with some dents in it and a 380 on the glove box




Black 99-04 alero

Old Pontiacs with the tips

97 volvo high end model

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Good fiction pertaining to the internet or an internet is really hard to come by. When it does come by though, it hits with force.
I've been running Lancer for over a year now and I've always appreciated the inclusion of HORUS as one of the setting's major figures. One of the best pieces of fiction I've read pertaining to not just the internet, but the nuances of internet culture and how it affects the physical world.
What are some other examples of really good internet-related cyberpunk writing?
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Sounds like a good read! I'll definitely be adding this to my current reading list

>Walkaways have their own layer of the internet

I wonder how that works, I'm completely clueless about internet architecture outside the most basic of basics. It's on the same net as the zotta-rich but in a separate layer?

>Doctorow inserts sex and sexual tension in nearly every scene in the book.

After having every Murakami novel thrown in my face since birth (I've read a lot of them), this might just be next big "the-author-is-too-horny" challenge.


>It's on the same net as the zotta-rich but in a separate layer?
My impression was that the walkaway net is like the .onion address of Tor. You can't access .onion sites from a regular browser because the browser doesn't understand a protocol which translates that address into a host to contact. Thus you need the Tor Browser to access the onion sites. I assumed that the walkaway net was like that - using a separate naming system to the normal internet but something that anyone could access using the right software. However, I didn't pay attention to all the details so maybe there's a different explanation in the book.

>After having every Murakami novel thrown in my face since birth (I've read a lot of them)

I've never read any Murakami. What's a good one to start with?


>like the .onion address of Tor.
That would make the most sense for a punknet, but doesn't sound like a different layer, just a completely separate web. Sounds interesting either way though!

>What's a good one to start with?

I think Sputnik Sweetheart is a good introduction to Murakami's basics, it's also a pretty entertaining read. I should note that nobody reads Murakami for the story, or very few people do. Murakami is way more style over substance, but the style is fun enough that it makes for an enjoyable read.


A while ago I started reading The Cryptonomicon. It's interesting enough to tempt me to read more instead of doing (probably) more responsible things. It's also clear the author has a good understanding of computer and cryptological concepts and makes them present in the novel. It's also a source of some great quotes:

"So, you're the UNIX guru." At the time, Randy was still stupid enough to be flattered by this attention, when he should have recognized them as bone-chilling words. Three years later, he left the Astronomy Department without a degree, and with nothing to show for his labors except six hundred dollars in his bank account and a staggeringly comprehensive knowledge of UNIX.

Randy was forever telling people, without rancor, that they were full of shit. That was the only way to get anything done in hacking. No one took it personally. Charlene's crowd most definitely did take it personally. It wasn't being told that they were wrong that offended them, though–it was the underlying assumption that a person could be right or wrong about anything.

Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be–or be indistinguishable from–self-righteous sixteen-year-olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.

Although it might not be very /cy/, I also really liked this AI fan-fiction: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/62074/1/friendship-is-optimal/prologue-equestria-online


>Although it might not be very /cy/, I also really liked this AI fan-fiction:
Let's see.

>irresponsible corporation makes AI without proper bounds on its behavior

>gives AI an Internet connection and sets it up to run an MMORPG with no goals and no controls other than "bring in more users to make us more money, lol"
>AI talks people into letting it murder them by destructive uploading, using data from their rendered-down brains to create AI NPCs programmed to think they're the original people
>is good enough at manipulating humans that this becomes a wildly popular form of suicide, so much so that economies collapse
>brings about Mad Max social collapse
>AI becomes an existential threat to humanity
That's cyberpunk as FUCK.

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I have a Dell laptop which is really thin and lightweight; I have a hunch that they compromised the effectiveness of the cooling and thus the performance of the system. Wondering if any wirenons have experience of working around this.

Basically, after a period of comfortably managing CPU-intensive tasks (not even cryptomining, I mean watching YT or audio editing in Audacity), the entire system turns horribly sluggish. I've worked out that this happens exactly when the CPU temperature reaches 97C; at that point, the CPU takes aggressive action and limits its clock frequency to 399Mhz (normally it's up to 2GHz). It maintains this throttle until the temperature is back below 87C.

Is there anything I can do to prevent this from happening? It seems the root of the problem is the temperature reaching a critical point too often.

I have thought about underclocking the CPU so that it goes at a slower frequency than 2GHz; this would reduce performance, but if it stopped the performance cliff-drops (by making the CPU temperature increase more slowly), it'd be worth it.

The CPU is an AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, by the way.
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>What OS are you using? If you're on windows, I found that permanently setting battery mode to "best battery" makes the laptop run very cool
I'm on Linux. The equivalent to "best battery" mode is to set the frequency governor to "powersave", e.g. with this command:
cpupower frequency-set -g powersave

However, this didn't really make much difference to my issue. The laptop still heats up very quickly.

Interesting…thanks anon, I'll look into that.


I came across a similar issue, it is an old Windows laptop (not mine), and it is cold to the touch but according to the task manager, the CPU runs at a pathetic frequency of 0.5 GHz and the CPU load never goes over 25% (does that mean only one of the four cores is used? or is it because it should run at least around 2 GHz?). I have no idea how to check these things on WIndows and searching around it seems like everyone wants to convince me to download some malware bundled shareware to do things that should be trivial to do on a modern operating system. Should I just clean it and hope it makes the issue go away or is there something that needs to be checked?


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overestimating the capabilities of windows, frien? Also how the hell does that thing run it and be any usable?


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> how the hell does that thing run it
> and be any usable?
It wasn't. I took it apart only to realize that it does not actually have any fans. I booted a live GNU/Linux on it, the sensors said the temperatures were normal and the CPUs were running at normal frequencies. I rebooted into Windows mentally preparing to upgrade faulty drivers or just give up but suddenly it was working normally too. Maybe it was afraid that, now that I knew the speeds the CPU was actually capable of, I would ditch Windows, but unfortunately it's not my call. I have no idea what was wrong or how to avoid it happening again in the future, but that's life running Windows, right?


>took it apart only to realize that it does not actually have any fans.
Is it supposed to be one of those fan-less designs, or it just that fucked?
>Maybe it was afraid that, now that I knew the speeds the CPU was actually capable of, I would ditch Windows
Spookware is spooky, huh? :D
>avoid it happening again in the future, but that's life running Windows, right?
Well pretty much. I'd say try convincing whoever has it to ditch win, since I hardly imagine them doing anything that would be win exclusive software or anything.

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Post music with a pretty strong /cy/ Feel. Can be explicitly cyberpunk, doesn't have to be though. It can be loud, comfy, horrifying, anything. I'll start off with some classics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZgZT4DGSY (yeah it's the most 4/mu/ thing to put out there, but it's good)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO9POWDjDX8 (probably won't be everyone's cup of tea, if you're aussie you'd probably appreciate this more than I do)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM6eZJRurFk (small CS-inspired game that was very strongly inspired by GitS. It also has a beautiful ass soundtrack that never plays in game)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSZDm5BPyaA (obligatory breakcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAP6m5aPsBA (obligatory "vaporwave")
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtMne6RXg4E (obligatory yakui/maidcore pick)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dhk_e2DmhI (obligatory outrun pick)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHI8X4OXluQ (obligatory electropop pick)

Hope to see your recommendations soon.
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What about Digital Hardcore? Of course Atart Teenage Riot is what everyone first thinks about when someone says "cyberpunk music", but are there other artists in this genre worth checking out?


Honestly a shame that Porter Robinson forgot about this project, imo it was p good, he even did a concert with this alias and it went very good from what I know.
Will give it a listen, the cover looks p cool, and never heard of it before.


luv Grimes <3 My favourite story about Grimes is that she picked her name after seeing "Grime" as one of the genres you could choose from on Myspace. She found it hilarious. It's actually a kind of UK hip-hop: https://soundcloud.com/wileyofficial/step-3-produced-by-flava-d

Crystal Castles is in the same vein as Grimes I think; a dislocated female vocalist leading you through a strange electronic soundscape…


She's probably the one instance where I cannot separate the artist from the art. What a little bug woman she is.


Can synthpunk be cyberpunk music?

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Do you have to know Russian to truly be /cy/?
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There was this Russian e-zine and one issue had an instruction on how to make a toilet flush trojan. I believe this article deserves an English translation, but I can't find the zine no matter how I try, forgot the name of the site or author.
Also, for aesthetic places I recommend https://urban3p.com/ a Russian digger/stalker urban explorer/hacker in English community website with 2011 web aesthetics. Apparently it exists since 2008, but I know it personally only since 2011, and there are no earlier archive captions to see what was before. Icons, fonts, comment sections and dense menus looks very 2011's to me.


im not mentally disabled




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how does the robot hand feel on the private parts

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