/cy/ - Cyberpunk

To be honest, 1980s and 1990s cyberpunk authors probably would have found a story such as homeless people using miniature supercomputers in the shelter of brutalist infrastructure to be accurate to the genre. In my opinion.

>>2995
hella

>>2996
please dont say hella again

>>2998
hella

>>2995
Are you the writer anon, cause nice weave!

Next steps: connecting the devices to form decentralized mesh friend-nets independent of, but interoperable with, the internet. Then: sneaker-net between bridges!

>>3024
I don't know who writer anon is, so I'm going to wager that I am not them. I don't really write. I just like to play devil's advocate. I think the friend-net thing has already been tried with Discord, hasn't it? I guess that isn't decentralized, but the concept of having spaces walled off from but still ultimately a part of the internet is still there. I think you know how awful that has been. The point is that I don't believe something like a cyberbridge community network can have any connection to wider cyber society and survive. Even if it takes ten or fifteen years of small trickling, a small group of devices like that will not be able to hold their own culture forever. There either has to be a great degree of assimilation or a vow of complete disconnection. The constant and necessary physical connection the whole bridge thing necessitates could be the factor that makes a walled garden feasible, though.

>>3025
>I think you know how awful that has been.
Not personally. The few Discord-communities I've been part of, back when I still used the platform, were generally very lovely and encouraging spaces. But I have heard of less amicable spaces and echo chambers with other beats echoing.. Either way: I wouldn't dismiss it as simply and wholly "awful".

>The point is that I don't believe something like a cyberbridge community network can have any connection to wider cyber society and survive.
How do you conceptualize it's survival? Correct me if I'm wrong, but from how you describe it, it sounds more like a static take on stability, wheras I would say that such a community would be more akin to the dynamicism of a flower, feeding the next generation of bees. Friend groups, communities, meshes come and go, they morph, bloom and wilt. Only dying if you view them as individual and isolated, but feeding the cycles if you learn to see, and/or be part of, how.

>>3026
My point about Discord was actually the opposite of your takeaway. You could not possibly have an echochamber of a Discord server because it is too attached to the wider Internet. Discord servers will still fall into modern internet trends, from new slang to trending media to trending talking points and opinions, so on and so forth. The modern internet is too influential to keep out with the interoperable system Discord uses. That is what makes it awful, as I say.

Both the fact that any community will have an eternal impact on its members regardless of its current status and the fact that no online community can survive being connected to wider cyberspace are simultaneously true. The state of the modern Internet forces complete isolation to be the only route that leads to true survival, at least culturally. A community will "pollinate" as you say, and this is a great thing. The problem is that the Internet is so ubiquitous that those influences only serve to influence the wider Internet culture and not be influences in themselves to people. This is why I think having an isolated culture with its own slang and inside jokes and trends and such is important. There are no more cycles with/through these kinds of communities, and I think that should change. All of this to say, a cyberbridge community could accept unplanned obsolescence and allow itself to be a part of the wider online community, accept its eventual dissolution and seek to make the most impact in can in its circumstances and live on through that impact. I believe, however, that a cyberbridge community would be better off isolating itself from proper Internet access and forming its own culture. The former would improve the lives of its members through its having existed once it is no longer stable, but I do no think this is enough. I hope this all answers your base question.