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 No.104[Reply]

AMD won
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 No.108

That's what I use, so I guess I win too?

 No.172

Using Ryzen AMD CPU as well here.

 No.319

Apple announced that they will be using their own chips; I wonder how that will effect x86's monopoly on desktop computing.

 No.327

>>319
It probably won't. Macs already had compatibility issues with things made for PCs (e.g. Linux), so I doubt widening that gap further will change much. Then again, I tend to be continuously surprised at what kind of cues tech companies take from Apple. Like, it didn't surprise me at all when iPhone abandoned headphone jacks, but I was absolutely baffled when other phone companies followed suit.
If anything breaks the x86 monopoly, I really hope it's something open source like RISC-V and not just companies trying to copy Apple's dumb bullshit. Who am I kidding though, that's not gonna be the case.

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 No.337[Reply]

Is GNU Guile's ice-9 module named after Cirno?!

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 No.340

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>>339
Don't tell me Kurt Vonnegut knew about Cirno??

Is this a good book? Should I read it?

 No.341

>>340
>Don't tell me Kurt Vonnegut knew about Cirno??
I don't know what a Cirno is but if you have a date associated with it you may draw some conclusions by comparing it to the book's date.

>Is this a good book? Should I read it?

As Hugo award nominees go it's on the weakish side, but if you're into social satire with black humor you might give it a rainy afternoon.

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>>341
Cirno is a character from the Touhou video games. She's an ice fairy who is associated with the number nine (⑨) because she's an idiot.



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 No.83[Reply]

What got you into Linux?
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 No.283

The Godot (game engine) discord server had a room where people would post RMS memes. They also had the command .rms.

So one day I was curious and watched a talk of RMS.
And because I'm rational, I could see how objectively everything this man was saying made sense.

Became free a few weeks after. Never looked back. Best choice of my life.

 No.311

>>282
Embrace, extend, and extinguish

 No.312

>>311
We are already at the extend phase.

 No.314

>>83
Windows

 No.338

Web development, if I were to rely on containerization doing it on a dedicated OS would spare me a couple headaches.



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 No.144[Reply]

Have you ever operated a chan?

What does it take, in terms of memory, CPU, bandwidth and disk space to run a chan? Let's suppose it's at wirechan's posting rate.

What software is best? Vichan? Lynxchan?
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 No.305

>>300
You were saying how you rolled your own.
>>303
There's nothing better to do here but to reply to bait. Nobody really cares about this place.
>>304
Nice projection. Nobody likes it when shit is shilled. Being an imageboard doesn't mean free speech extremism. I don't even like lain. Are you a laincel?

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>>305
>I don't even like lain.
Come say that to my face, motherfucker!

 No.309

>>305
Nothing wrong with a little shilling every once in a while
>I don't even like lain. Are you a laincel?
Why don't you like lain? I enjoyed the the show and the topics that it introduced, like surveillance and the wired. I thought this was a technology and anime imageboard. Theres even a Lain board. Is she too loli for you?

 No.313

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all you guys are faggots and losers and a are ruining backwater boards with your autistic/incel/neet/ shit it was never about that

your identity is fucking anonymous stop powerleveling and spilling your life all over the internet


>>305
>I don't even like lain.
MODS ban please thats like going to an IRA meeting and praising the english

 No.320

>>155
>>156
I can help you, message me at XMPP, loin@xmpp.is
I hope its not too late.



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 No.206[Reply]

With the GPL, for any binary that you distribute, you have to make the corresponding source code available. With reproducible builds (see: https://reproducible-builds.org/), it is possible to verify that the binary was indeed compiled from the available source code. All you have to do is to compile the source code yourself, and compare the resulting binary with the one distributed. For an example of this in practice, see guix's `challange` command.

With the AGPL, if you run a service accessible through a network, you have to make the corresponding source code to the service available to the users. But is there a way for the user to verify that the service provided corresponds to the source code available? I can't think of any situation where the service couldn't just simply lie about what it is.

 No.207

Try asking on textboard.org maybe.

 No.208

>>207
Is my thread not welcome here?

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I believe this to be very important in today's climate where every megacorporation tries to paint themselves to be great supporters of "open source" and many of our organizations are funded by their "generous donations". But the problem is that they don't give a shit about software freedom. Take Visual Studio Code for example. Microsoft used to advertise it as being Open Source, and millions in good faith downloaded binaries of it. Until a careful eye noticed that the source code released as "Visual Studio Code" was different from the binaries released as "Visual Studio Code". In fact, the binaries even have their own license agreement that you have to accept to use them. After being called out on it, Microsoft modified their website and now Visual Studio Code only claims that it was "built on Open Source", as if that was something to be proud of. But the damage has already been done. I think Docker employed (or still employs) similar tricks. The problem is, pushover (so-called "permissive") licenses do not protect you from this trickery at all. With copyleft licenses, the source code of the binary has to be provided. But with pushover licenses, corporations can put some crippled version of their software on Github as bait, and distribute proprietary versions of it in binary form. This is why I think verifying source-to-binary correspondence, enabled by bootstrappable and reproducible builds, is so important.

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>>210
https://media.libreplanet.org/u/libreplanet/m/the-four-free-ums/
There was this talk at LibrePlanet 2020 by someone from the Open Source Initiative(!) about some current practices that companies employ to appear as part of the Free Software movement without actually adhering to the principles of software freedom.



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Netrunner thread

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>>9
It's still alive?

 No.285

>>11
sadly no

 No.290

The browser, the distro, or the card game?



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Do you love Free Software? Let's share some Free Software that we love!

 No.213

Yeah boys. some of my (free || open) source software

1. OSs: Debian, Void, Plan9, & OpenBSD
2. Editors: Acme, Emacs, & Sam

W8.
Here is a list:
https://github.com/mayfrost/guides/blob/master/ALTERNATIVES.md

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>>212
I wish I could find a cute gf that's into free software, a good OS, and hates smartphones.

 No.215

I am really glad that Anki exists. It saved me from failing out of university.

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>>213
include gentoo



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 No.271[Reply]

Would it be possible to have a programming language that is not based on English reach mainstream adoption?
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 No.273

The world isn't that cool anymore. At best you'd get something out of China. Scary if they win the AI race.

 No.274

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>>272
How about something like APL that manages to avoid the language question altogether?

 No.277

>>274
why would people want to go back to hieroglyphs?

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>>277
Same reason they use them in maths? Why should programming languages mimic human languages when programs do not behave in any way resembling human thoughts?

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>>280
because humans make it and use it, the machine doesn't care you can make a language based on different dick sizes and it will still take it, but we don't think like that we think and verbalize our thoughts with words, we refined to a point where we can use letters who are easy to grasp and to memorize in a verbal way who can also be used in a number of different variations

square+circle+lain+circle+dildo+triangle= function a
"a" = function a



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 No.100[Reply]

Is 4GB of ram still normal in present day? I switched from 2GB and everything works perfectly. For me personally, it is enough.
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 No.174

When will 32GB be the standard?

 No.177

>>100
The cheap second-hand laptop I got last year has 8GB and that's been a pretty big change for me, I was used to 4GB up to that point. I'm still shocked to hear of people using 16. Though I suppose using a bunch of ever-expanding spyware (read: Windows) can be pretty intensive. Unless I suddenly have a change of heart and start getting heavily into gaming, I don't think I'll ever need more than this.

 No.182

>>110
Standard for what? for hardcore gaming maybe, also for Pixar level modeling or Hollywood level video edition, for other tasks no, I run a lot VM and I don't need more than 8GB, of course when I do that work I only can do that work, same with video edition and other similar tasks. Of course if you use a super bloated system even 16GB eventually become not enough.

>>143
Agree, its a meme, and a very bad one.

>>174
I hope never ever.

 No.276

>>174
I got 32 gb.

 No.278

At work we have build machines with 64 GB memory and it is filled up within seconds if you try doing link-time-optimization on anything big.



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 No.267[Reply]

Let's collect here programming books that are unusual in some sense, be it their approach, presentation, or simply just quality.

 No.268

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The Little Schemer (and its continuations) have a very nice dialogue-like structure to them, which takes a bit of practice to read effectively, but once you are used to it, is a delight to read. The examples it use are very fun, too. I was told that it is an example of "programmed instruction" but other books labelled programmed instruction are nowhere near this masterpiece.

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This is a textbook written for students whose introductory programming class used a functional programming language, the concrete examples are in SML. It teaches C and imperative programming through translating functional programs into efficient and idiomatic C programs. Sometimes the translations are quite formal, other times somewhat heuristic.



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