/b/ - Random

>>5213
Because its a reflection of society, society overall has changed and it incorporated the internet in it. Old memes were from a more stable and separeted time of the web where it wasnt serious business, now it is, one tweet might change the course of humanity as we know. Soyjaks are easily manufactured munitions for the culture war, nothing more nothing less, it doenst matter if its ran its course, what matters is that it pisses off people the people you point them at, causing depression suicide and other negative emotions at them.
It not to have in jokes within your hobby, its to cause harm to the opposition. Its not memes, memes as we knew are dead and have been since 2014.

>>5213
Literally something that existed from beginning of time.

Those are not memes of the olde because in the olde there was not a culture war.

>>5214
So for "serious business" society picked fucking MS paint drawings to fling schoolyard insults? What kind of ignorant shit is that?
>Hmmm this person is my ideological opponent. What should I do? An intelligent counterargument? Well designed, eye catching and convincing propoganda? I know! I'll send them a fucking MS Paint drawing of a bald guy who doesn't know how to shave properly! That'll show em!
How does spamming wojaks to strawman someone not instantly out someone as an idiot with no argument?
>>5215
Maybe I'm just looking at this from a modern lense, but this political drawing seems far more artistic, tasteful, and maybe even more convincing than "stereotypes slapped on a copied MS Paint drawing number 234456948278494919"

>>5216
I don't think you got the point, a cultural weapon isn't supposed to be "good looking", it's supposed to appeal, and people are so dumbed down, that's the kind of stuff that amuses them. Haven't you seen how big these in particular have gotten? People love them.

And yeah, of 6 it is more artistic and all that, but that was the way of thought down there. Even in baroque times everything was done in a far more complicated way just because they could.

>>5214
>memes as we knew are dead and have been since 2014.
I'd argue that they died in 2013. But I guess close enough. I agree with your statement for the most part, when social media and smartphones became a part of most people's societial structure is truly when society started to decay.

>>5216

oh yes the nuanced art of portraying your enemy in a cariacture way… without sterotyping or painting a broad picture.

Do you even read the posts you make before you read it?Jesus christ.


>What kind of ignorant shit is that?

The world you live in, the world people like you make it to be.

>instantly out someone as an idiot with no argument?

Because there is no debate, what was the last time you saw a debate actually happen that was not shit flinging?
Im not super pro wojack but you are commenting on old memes, something you have not participated and from an era you do not understand, if things are so bad now make your own amazing memes and they surely catch on if everything is shit, just fore the love of god stop whining, you are the equivalent of a child wearing a pink floyd or tupac t shirt and complainig about modern music, you were not there to experience that era and just dick suck things you only have experienced though a glowing screen without ever making or being part of something worth it your expectations.

People like you will never have good memes, soyjacks its all you deserve.

>>5222
It died whenever gamergate started.

>>5227
This is literally copypasta. I saw your post somewhere else just last night.

>>5226
>oh yes the nuanced art of portraying your enemy in a cariacture way… without sterotyping or painting a broad picture.
I meant that those old propoganda pictures took considerably more effort and artistic ability than spamming soijaks, and I appriciate that aspect even if I disagree with the message. I apoligize if that isn't what I conveyed before.

>something you have not participated and from an era you do not understand
As I admitted when I said that I'm a zoomer. I'm not debating that. I do remember the internet being less depressing and toxic even in my early teens, but perhaps it was pretty bad even then and some combination of good luck and youth lead me to think it was better. Why not explain what I'm misunderstanding?

>if things are so bad now make your own amazing memes and they surely catch on if everything is shit
Never said I was good at it either, just like people with certain music preferences aren't necessarily good at an instrument. They just know what appeals to them. Though I have tried my hand at it from time to time. It was fun, but didn't really catch on outside of my circle of friends, which is cool too.

>just fore the love of god stop whining, you are the equivalent of a child wearing a pink floyd or tupac t shirt and complainig about modern music, you were not there to experience that era and just dick suck things you only have experienced though a glowing screen without ever making or being part of something worth it your expectations.
A fair point. Things just seem so much less optimistic now and older people wax nostalgically about how the art was better, how it was easier to afford a house, how things were less stressful, etc. However, they could be wearing rose colored glasses and overlooking things in the past that they would rather leave there. Young people consume said art, realize they like it more than what they get today and associate that with "better times" that older people talk about. I don't think my generation is entirely at fault, nor do I think earlier generations are at fault either.

>People like you will never have good memes, soyjacks its all you deserve.
Rather harsh, but I can see how this all would be annoying to you. Regardless, I have no hostility toward you.

>>5229
>I meant that those old propoganda pictures took considerably more effort and artistic ability than spamming soijaks, and I appriciate that aspect even if I disagree with the message. I apoligize if that isn't what I conveyed before.

Yes the more forward we go in time the less effort it takes, they said that the camera would kill paitings, people still paint but anybody can take pictures while not everybody can paint. Old memes were mostly pictures of dogs and people with impact font, soyjacks are more "artistic" by your standards then? Stop being so retarded and trying to have internet culture be part of your life because you read through a glowing screen that people years ago had internet culture be a part of their lives.

>Why not explain what I'm misunderstanding?
People used to say web 2.0 sucked and that it was way better when it was all handmade and that memes like mudkipz and desu were shit and the internet was garbage now, people used to say that web 1.0 was shit beacuse everybody could make a static page and did not have to hack through phone lines to access the bbs and that all you base belong to us was the worst thing to come out of the web.
It was queer then and its queer now.

You look though the glowing screen for things of the past you do not belong to and are just complaining because you have no cultural ties to this generation, even though there is so much more beyond retards spamming wojaks, you just don't know, you are not apart of it so instead of creating your own or becoming part of it you act like everything is shit due to your own lack of ties to something.

It would be like if during the 90s, i dressed up like elvis and said that doo-wop was the greatest thing ever because music sucks now, but all I ever listened to 90s music was the thong song. Just because you don't know doesn't mean you should start larping and pretending to be or to know something you had no experience of.

You will never know how it feels to walk into a anime convention in 2004 meet a cute girl and bond over newgrounds or some other retarded internet stuff that nobody cares about. Its simply not the world you live in. Stop trying to make something that already happened happen, make something new instead of just whining constantly about the current zeitgeist which makes the current zeitgeist even shitter.


>Young people consume said art
But they don't make no art. Or maybe people like you make no art rather.

Because I mean, they do, and they do great art, you just don't know about it and feel the need to whine and that what you see everywhere else, because if you were part of a scene, you made art, music, memes, you probaly care not about going into a place where all people do its whine and larp. If you are a zoomer and all you know about modern internet culture is soyjacks and suck dick about da olden days you know nothing about, i wouldn't want you in my cool scene either, soyjacks its all you deserve.

You might think im being harsh but i am only relaying the truth, if you feel like its harsh on you then maybe you should harden up your skin.

>>5230
All good points. I suppose my biggest gripe is something that was already somewhat the case and I just noticed it more as I got older: internet culture often being really annoying, uncivilized and unfun. Soijaks put me off because they seem like a culmination of all that. I remember having more fun online even in somewhat mainstream spaces, but now it seems like everyone is swept up in more politics and drama than before. I still find good things online and participate. I'm greatful for my small circle of friends both in real life and online. Newgrounds is still awesome, there are still good forums, and Wirechan is my favorite imageboard/chan site where I can have discussions like this one. Maybe I just expect too much of more mainstream spaces where messy people get the most attention, but things seem lesser in a way they didn't before. I don't know if I conveyed my thoughts well enough, but maybe you can explain what I'm observing. Did >>5214 give a good explanation?

>>5231
The tldr is;
The world its not the same, and it will never will be, internet culture its part of the world and its the same case.

There are more people on the internet now, not everybody can be part of the cool kids club but they still want to put stuff out, You don't expect the fat kids to keep up with the captain of the football team, but they still want to play and you have to share the space.

Thats something you're just gonna have to deal with it whether you like it or not.
Whatever you do don't be that guy that constantly whines about everything, you're gonna get left behind.

>>5230
Diana, will you be my girlfriend?

>>5230
>People used to say web 2.0 sucked and that it was way better when it was all handmade and that memes like mudkipz and desu were shit and the internet was garbage now, people used to say that web 1.0 was shit beacuse everybody could make a static page and did not have to hack through phone lines to access the bbs and that all you base belong to us was the worst thing to come out of the web.
It was queer then and its queer now.

Unironically Web 1.0 killed Networked communication. The Internet had its highest barrier of entry then; only college students (at major colleges), and computer enthusiasts and very intelligent people in general used it. Going thru Usenet archives, It seems to me like those guys were unbelievably witty and level-headed. They even had a whole board on suicide,(usually the most whiny, petulant, and blabbering topic on the Net), and actually had interesting, unemotional, and witty discussions about it, citing philosophy books and magazines and shit, and having a light-hearted laugh.

>>5230
>even though there is so much more beyond retards spamming wojaks, you just don't know, you are not apart of it so instead of creating your own or becoming part of it you act like everything is shit due to your own lack of ties to something.

Where can I go to form these ties? Can you tell us? Even give us a hint?

I've noticed that the people who talk all about how 'there's a lot of stuff out there, you just need to find it', will never give you even the slightest clue for starting your journey.

>>5235
>snip
>Those guys
>those
Ohhhh i get it, you were never part of it, you just saw it though a glowing screen and never experienced it, gotcha.

It would be pointless for me to explain cascading, meowing, septembering and all of the other retarded shit that took place on the usenet, you were not part of it so you can read though your glowing screen like you do everything else. You obviously do nothing, You have nothing but time….

Forums took place of usenet discussion, they were relentlessly spammed in the dying days and most people migrated. Reminder that you could not ban people on usenet…
There a are still invite only forums out there that are exactly that yoiu are looking for if you really want to talk with guys on their 60s and 70s or you can use the 2 legacy ones which the guys are transgender now.
Stop being so retarded jesus chirst.

Now i will throw you a curve ball, imagine there was a discord server filled with the "intellectuals" where people had a whole board on suicide,(usually the most whiny, petulant, and blabbering topic on the Net), and actually had interesting, unemotional, and witty discussions about it, citing philosophy books and magazines and shit, and having a light-hearted laugh.

What would be the difference exactly? Other than people like you wouldn't have access to neither.

>>5236
What am I? Your dad???
What do you think this is an isekai? I am going to tell you then a whole world will appear and then you the main character will finally execute your full potential!!1!!!
If you make nothing worthy now, all you deserve are soyjacks.

It would be like taking a member from an isolated tribe in an island, and then have them compete with people from harvard in something they have no experience about, Its cruel.

There are plenty of zoomer things out there, you just don't make anything so why would anyone invite you there? Why would the cool kids pick up the loser? Why would the nba pick up somebody from a street park? Actually scratch that, not even from a park, pick up somebody who watches basketball though a glowing screen but never plays?

How do you think people phreaked back in the day? Do you think somebody told them:

Yea man you just have to commit a crime and break in into the phone system, real ez…
Why people did it? Because it was fun, it was a hobby. And through hobbies you find your friends and your ties.

Who told Link Wray that actually you have to poke holes in your speaker for distortion?
Who told skateboarders that they should tresspass somebodys house to play with their toy in a pool?
Who told western people in the 80s about anime?

If you have friends, these links come naturally, you do things, you make things, and people in the future look back on the things you did through a glowing screen and make no things because they want to be like you. No wonder the suicide rate is so high.

>>5239
>What am I? Your dad???
>What do you think this is an isekai? I am going to tell you then a whole world will appear and then you the main character will finally execute your full potential!!1!!!
>If you make nothing worthy now, all you deserve are soyjacks.

>It would be like taking a member from an isolated tribe in an island, and then have them compete with people from harvard in something they have no experience about, Its cruel.

This kind of outstanding pompousness just tells me you have no more idea about any of this than I do. I'm not asking you to lead me to the promised land. I asked if you could give a hint. At least a minor nudge in the right direction. I asked for the equivalent of someone whispering 'You should listen to *random obscure group*' and then leaving you to discover the genre.


>And through hobbies you find your friends and your ties.

Dude, that's what I'm trying to do right now. I'm browsing imageboards as a hobby. You, by also taking part in this hobby, could have been my friend, and helped me form further ties, but you're evidently not very interested in being 'cool' either…


>Who told Link Wray that actually you have to poke holes in your speaker for distortion?
>Who told skateboarders that they should tresspass somebodys house to play with their toy in a pool?
>Who told western people in the 80s about anime?

You act as if people never have to be told anything. I'm sure the earliest enthusiasts in these things just happened upon them in a 'natural' way, but within 5 years, I'll bet there were probably skaters bringing non skaters along to the pool, and anime-watchers telling non-anime watchers 'Hey, you should check out this cool thing I've got.'

I doubt they said anything like 'If you make nothing worthy now, all you deserve is disco.'

>>5239
>What would be the difference exactly? Other than people like you wouldn't have access to neither.

The difference is that Usenet was a real thing and the discord server you talk about it just a hypothetical meant to belittle me.

What's the difference between a woman and a dragon? Other than that people like you couldn't ride either…

>>5240
>snip

You obviously never read what I wrote, I already told you, make something worth attracting people and forming ties thats the best nudge I could possibly give you

>I'm browsing imageboards as a hobby
This is the most pathetic shit I ever read, if this is your hobby then you can form ties with the culture that shares this hobby, which is spamming soyjacks.
You might as well said, "I browse instagram" as your hobby.

I do not wish in any sort or capacity to be your friend as I already have a friend group and think that internet friendship its a crutch for losers to avoid their suicide attempts thank you very much. Browsing the web is not my hobby its me burning and avoiding work hours.

>3
If thats so how come skating started in the 1950s and only really became truly popular in the late 80s early 90s??? Which conicidnetally a lot of skaters thought it killed skateboarding at the time??? 1989 was skateboarding eternal september. There are plenty of articles of the era about it.

Why did anime didn't really became popular until the late 2000s early 2010s??? Which conicidnetally a lot of anime fans thought it killed it at the time??? 2009 was anime eternal september. There are plenty of articles of the era about it.

Why don't we go to 4chan and reddit and post:

Hey guys check this cool website its called wirechan.org!!!!

I am sure it would be great for this site if we had reddit people running around. ~-~

You are simply not worth it yet, you have no experience for the job, what scene are you part of? What contributions to the overall zeitgeist have you made? Let me put on simple terms you can understand…
You need to level up yourself before you can unlock a new area.

>I doubt they said anything like 'If you make nothing worthy now, all you deserve is disco.

This is actually almost a perfect quote from sid vicious in 1977
The quote is; "If you make wanker music like those disco queers, don't even bother coming in here"

You can literally watch any punk rock documentary from the era and there will be similar quotes, Thats the whole point of making something new, you just don't like the current thing, which at the time was disco, then those people banded together and made something completely new, nobody told them to or how, the opposite actually.
Do you really thing the guys on video related were going around asking and telling people to be part of their scene? Really?? The most you would get were flyers for the events in a wall somewhere if you were lucky to find it, which guess what its just like every scene nowadays. Now kids look at those things through a glowing screen and want to be like them. Something made out of nothing but the desire to break away from the current zeitgeist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncU7sWLVFk0 (it doesn't embed for some reason)

>it just a hypothetical

Harvard has their own discord servers so do most universities and their respective sororities including skull and bones.

I have this idea that over time memes moved away from being just jokes on the internet and moved on to be cultural icons of a sort. I don't exactly mean 'cultural icons' like a mascot or a movie character, but more like 'usable' cultural icons that can be used to press arguments and teach lessons. The same way that depictions of Venus represent all beauty, (from a Western perspective), these wojack creatures represent all greed all avarice, all misanthropy (from the perspective of a certain kind of young person today.)
In Greek mythology the pantheon of the gods were the greatest of heroes. Cultural icons of the ideal Greek person. In Christianity their identifiers were placed on devils and they became mere extensions of Satan. Cultural icons of heathen worship.

Sometimes I kind of worry that wojaks will stick around forever. But rage comics died, I guess…

This whole thread its what happens when you don't have a a strong father figure in the house

>>5213
> someone whispering 'You should listen to *random obscure group*' and then leaving you to discover the genre.
This is really gay nobody does this

>You, by also taking part in this hobby, could have been my friend, and helped me form further ties

This is really gay, begging for random people you dont even know on the internet to be your friend its really low.

>I'm browsing imageboards as a hobby.
"I watch youtube videos as a hobby"

>and anime-watchers telling non-anime watchers 'Hey, you should check out this cool thing I've got.'

1988 nowhere usa

1;Hey guys do wanna check out this new japanese cartoon movie my neighbor totoro?

2; Get outta here you weird faggot
3; ewww this guys gross
4; lol lets go play football
1; but but *gets wedgied*
3; lol nerd

>>5243
>Why don't we go to 4chan and reddit and post:

>Hey guys check this cool website its called wirechan.org!!!!

Please don't

>>5213
I dub these the "usednet wars"

>>5243
>This is the most pathetic shit I ever read, if this is your hobby then you can form ties with the culture that shares this hobby, which is spamming soyjacks.
You might as well said, "I browse instagram" as your hobby.

>I do not wish in any sort or capacity to be your friend as I already have a friend group and think that internet friendship its a crutch for losers to avoid their suicide attempts thank you very much. Browsing the web is not my hobby its me burning and avoiding work hours.

What the hell is a hobby besides something you do when you're not working? I've got a paper I should be writing too, but here I am. Another thing, you make the wrong assumption that this is the only hobby I've got. I said 'a' hobby not 'my' hobby.

>If thats so how come skating started in the 1950s and only really became truly popular in the late 80s early 90s??? Which conicidnetally a lot of skaters thought it killed skateboarding at the time??? 1989 was skateboarding eternal september. There are plenty of articles of the era about it.

>Why did anime didn't really became popular until the late 2000s early 2010s??? Which conicidnetally a lot of anime fans thought it killed it at the time??? 2009 was anime eternal september. There are plenty of articles of the era about it.

>Why don't we go to 4chan and reddit and post:

>Hey guys check this cool website its called wirechan.org!!!!

>I am sure it would be great for this site if we had reddit people running around. ~-~

All of this is totally irrelevant. I'm not asking you to ruin anything by showing it to all of the normies. You're talking to one guy on an anonymous imageboard… Seriously, I talked about skating in the 70s and you start bringing up 1989…

>This is actually almost a perfect quote from sid vicious in 1977
>The quote is; "If you make wanker music like those disco queers, don't even bother coming in here"

>You can literally watch any punk rock documentary from the era and there will be similar quotes, Thats the whole point of making something new, you just don't like the current thing, which at the time was disco, then those people banded together and made something completely new, nobody told them to or how, the opposite actually.
>Do you really thing the guys on video related were going around asking and telling people to be part of their scene? Really?? The most you would get were flyers for the events in a wall somewhere if you were lucky to find it, which guess what its just like every scene nowadays. Now kids look at those things through a glowing screen and want to be like them. Something made out of nothing but the desire to break away from the current zeitgeist.

They didn't say this to 'keep out all the unworthy normies', they said this so that only people receptive to their work would show up to their shows. People used to kick punk asses back in the day. And a receptive person does not mean a 'hardcore punker contributing to the culture, with three albums already under his belt', it just meant anyone who could show up to a show without talking shit.
Haven't you ever been to an underground show? There's always someone dragging around a curious friend and saying 'yeah, this is her first show…" The friend in question didn't have to do anything very grandiose to get there; they just had to be receptive to their friends interests and the scene they are being introduced to.

By the way, how can you be making all this conjecture about the punk movement when your only frame of reference is
> literally any punk rock documentary from the era ?

Ohhhh i get it, you were never part of it, you just saw it though a glowing screen and never experienced it, gotcha.

>Harvard has a discord server

Which you can join very easily, apparently. (picrelated)

>>5246
>1988 nowhere usa

>1;Hey guys do wanna check out this new japanese cartoon movie my neighbor totoro?

>2; Get outta here you weird faggot
>3; ewww this guys gross
>4; lol lets go play football
>1; but but *gets wedgied*
>3; lol nerd

How impotent do you have to be, to put someone down by cooking up a jock vs nerd scenario ripped from some shitty highschool movie?

I mean, 'let's play football'? Seriously?

>>5252
I could make a soyjack of you if you really wanted to.

If you can't take light jokes at your expense you would never make it in 2004, sorry bud.
All the connection you will ever have from that era is what you imagined how it would be in your head from what you saw in a glowing screen.
Truly a torturous fate glad I am not you.

>>5253
I don't dislike light jokes at my expense. I dislike lazy ones.

If you put together a quality put-down I wouldn't be complaining…

>>5251
Okay first of all, if you want a nudge in the right direction, do not quote the fucking entire post when you're replying, a quote gives context to a message. If your quote is a giant wall of text, it does nothing but bloat the page and make your post more obtuse than it needs to be. Only quote what you're directly replying to.
Imagine if I told you where to go, and you go there and start quoting giant walls of text and fucking up the place up with your retard behavior, thats what I mean you still have to level up yourself, also stop double posting, if you're gonna reply to 2345 different people just do it in one post, you should have space if you're not quoting giant walls of text.

Now on point:

>What the hell is a hobby besides something you do when you're not working
Something you make or bond over. preferably both
Imageboards are not a hobby, they're mindless entertainment, in par with infinite scrolling and watching youtube videos, its something you do when you're not working and cannot partake on your real hobbies and need quickie for 15 mins while on a long line or something. The fact that you would even think that that is remotely a hobby means you need professional help.

>I'm not asking you to ruin anything by showing it to all of the normies
From my perspective you're just another normie to me.
You are a random guy on a anonymous imageboard, I don't know you, we have no ties you dumb retard, you could be george bush for all I know.

>They didn't say this to 'keep out all the unworthy normies', they said this so that only people receptive to their work would show up to their shows.
Those are the exact same thing dipshit.

>There's always someone dragging around a curious friend and saying 'yeah, this is her first show…" The friend in question didn't have to do anything very grandiose to get there; they just had to be receptive to their friends interests and the scene they are being introduced to.

Oh wait, you mean that people that have ties to each other already? That they would try to form more ties introducing more people like them to their culture??? Yea it makes sense.
The thing is I am not like you dumass I don't know what you are and I am defnetly not your fucking friend you fucking retard.

>You, by also taking part in this hobby, could have been my friend, and helped me form further ties,
(off topic this should be a wirechan meme its so desperate its gold)
NO, who the fuck are you, george bush??? You're a random, im not your friend never will be, I don't know you weirdo.

>only frame of reference is
Not to powerlevel that much but the reason I brought up that specific show, was because I was there as a pre teen taking pictures for our shitty zine you faggot, If you want to pull somebodys card you have to have actual real experience on the topic otherwise you end you looking like an even bigger retard than you already are, the reason I brought up skateboarding in the 70s and 80s was because Its something I actually experienced, you said;

> I'll bet there were probably skaters bringing non skaters along to the pool
Which is untrue, skateparks back in the day were paid and your pool was your crew free territory and it was locals only, If we did not know you from the skatepark and you were not good and randomly showed up to the pool you would get your shit pushed in.

The reason I brought up phreaking, anime and every single thing in this thread its because I actually have experience on it you dumbass, otherwise what would be the point of me bringing it up in the first place? I cannot make baseball analogies because I only watched baseball though a glowing screen it makes no sense for me to speak on it. Do you get it?

>Ohhhh i get it, you were never part of it, you just saw it though a glowing screen and never experienced it, gotcha.
You cannot even make your own zingers, you have to take something that you already saw it work through a glowing screen to have any chance to push the point that you have no friends and some random on the internet should isekai you world. Soyjacks its all you deserve.

>(picrelated)
That's not a sorority you fucking idiot, that's a course. Anybody can join art school but if you have no ties you will be invited to nothing dumbass, do you even read the things you post?
>apparently
Oh yea no…

>>5252

1) Thats not an 80s movie trope, shit like this really happened you would get your ass kicked mentioning anime, star trek and the like.

2)Silly shit like this is what internet memes were build on, the same very thing you're complaining about, you're just mad because its about you.
If the same post was a 4chan screenshot from 06 with a true love screenshot attached you would be creaming your pants saying that that was the pinnacle of the internet.

You deserve nothing but soyjacks.

Why do you self humiliate like that? I get it its anonymous, but if this was one of the "cool" forums you would suck a dick to get in, you would be immediately know as "that guy" you would not make any ties, and have no precious ties to it, you would just be that guy that is shitting up the place. Why don't you make your own things and form your own ties?
You also read like an aspergers, if thats the case, seek help and turn it off.

>>5252
>>5256
I can also confirm this is how it played out. I live in a rural part of the country and from the way it sounds I'm not as old as that anon but I was a young kid in the 80s and that culture here dragged on throughout the 90s and even early to mid 2000s here. I was bullied in high school over being a "nerd". Even in college I was harassed over playing Yugioh because "jock culture" was still strong here. Things started to change slowly around the late 2000s and early 2010s. Sadly, the average person is still going to criticize you for being into things that aren't as acceptable as the norm here. Anime isn't as demonized as it once was as I see younger teens and adults wearing anime clothing and having accessories. It's all the mainstream series that everyone knows about. Makes me wonder what would happen to those wearing anything really lewd from an ecchi or hentai or even some moe stuff in public here. I can only imagine a grown man wearing anything with young anime moe girls would get their teeth kicked in due to the extreme conservatism here. I still have immature trash rolling down their windows in their pick up trucks screaming "faggot" at me for wearing my hair long.

>>5254
I cannot come up with a better put down than you being yourself. Its literally impossible.

>>5213
soyjacks are a b- meme

>>5251
>>5256
I declare the boomer as the winner of the used net wars.

Include me on the screenshot.

>>5256
damm this post really /threaded his ass


as a zoomer i also see that my generation does not wish to create nothing they want to have it handed to them, the isekai comparison its spot on its almost like a dependancy on others despite the claims of individualism its so weird

>>5251
haha young idiot

>>5243
>I doubt they said anything like 'If you make nothing worthy now, all you deserve is disco.

>This is actually almost a perfect quote from sid vicious in 1977
>The quote is; "If you make wanker music like those disco queers, don't even bother coming in here"

>You can literally watch any punk rock documentary from the era and there will be similar quotes, Thats the whole point of making something new, you just don't like the current thing, which at the time was disco, then those people banded together and made something completely new, nobody told them to or how, the opposite actually.
Do you really thing the guys on video related were going around asking and telling people to be part of their scene? Really?? The most you would get were flyers for the events in a wall somewhere if you were lucky to find it, which guess what its just like every scene nowadays. Now kids look at those things through a glowing screen and want to be like them. Something made out of nothing but the desire to break away from the current zeitgeist.

If they wanted to keep the whole 'punk' thing under wraps so that no-one ruined it, why would they even be doing a documentary in the first place?

>>5256
>Something you make or bond over. preferably both

Hobby:definition from Wikipedia:
>A hobby is considered to be a regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time

Hobby:definition from Dictionary.
>A hobby is considered to be a regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time
>Example:Her hobbies include stamp-collecting and woodcarving

'Something you make or bond over' is just your own subjective definition.
Do people 'make' anything by collecting stamps? No, but by definition it is still a hobby.

>Those are the exact same thing dipshit

No. 'Keeping out the normies' would mean never telling anyone about your scene because you don't want any new blood ever. 'Making sure only receptive people show up' would mean putting your scene out there in documentaries and interviews (like the ones you showed me) but putting up a disclaimer that you only want like-minded people to show up

>I brought up that specific show, was because I was there as a pre teen taking pictures for our shitty zine you faggot,

Well if you have experience that's all well and good. I was annoyed by your apparent hypocrisy, so I was responding to that. However, the fact that years later, you're here on an imageboard arguing with some random like me makes it very hard to believe you. (But I guess the fact that you keep mentioning George Bush is confirmation enough that you're old.)

>You cannot even make your own zingers, you have to take something that you already saw it work through a glowing screen to have any chance to push the point that you have no friends and some random on the internet should isekai you world

Cool it with the psychoanalysis, guy. Like I said, I thought you were some kind of hypocrite, so I figured, 'What better way to cut him down to size than to throw his own words back in his face?', It's like >>5261 said about me:

>I cannot come up with a better put down than you being yourself

But I was wrong, (maybe),so it doesn't really matter.

>If the same post was a 4chan screenshot from 06 with a true love screenshot attached you would be creaming your pants saying that that was the pinnacle of the internet.

Early 2000s internet is hit or miss.

>That's not a sorority you fucking idiot, that's a course

You didn't tell me specifically to chase down a sorority. You said:

>Harvard has their own discord servers so do most universities and their respective sororities including skull and bones.

You mentioned sororities as an aside, so I just searched out collegiate discord servers in general.

>>5310
>>5311
Bro you got the aspergers bro

>>5310
This post gave me a brain aneurysm, this could've been a only line response but not only you quoted multiple things that are not related you also misquoted at the end making it look like it was your own writing when you were actually still quoting.

If i isekaied you and gave you the keys to one of those ''places" you yearn for, you would've been insta demonized making a bloated post like this, It takes serious effort or severe brain damage to make a post this bad, what the fuck.

Now on point:

>If they wanted to keep the whole 'punk' thing under wraps so that no-one ruined it, why would they even be doing a documentary in the first place?

For the scene? For people in the punk scene in europe, japan, south america and all kinds of places to get an understanding of the unique california punk scene? For them to know about the scene bands they like are a part of?

This was before the internet as we know, you see, those were in vhs tapes and were passed/sold around in shows, skateparks and scene hang out places, they weren't going to a golf club or random bars and passing them around, if you were a church going guy in California 1982 you would've probably never even saw anything related to of punk rock outside of maybe some thugs in a tv show, maybe some homeless on the street, but you were definitely not privy to the inside details of the scene or cared about it even, if you saw that vhs in a blockbuster why the fuck would you buy it over hundreds of movies and random shit? Why the fuck would you even want to see it in the first place?

I know its hard for you to understand that people actually did things for the sake of being cool or being part of something cool, developing a culture and having fun creating their own things instead of begging others and browsing imageboards, but thats how things get made, not just punk rock, but pretty much everything else.
Some guys in the 1920s thought it would be cool to go really fast on their cars, people thought they were crazy daredevils, fast forward some years we got nascar. If you want something that is not yours, you have to make it yourself not beg for it, especially not with strangers on the internet.

>>5311

>A hobby is considered to be a regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time

"My hobby is masturbating"
"My hobby its banging my head repeatedly against a wall"
"My hobby is sleeping"

>Do people 'make' anything by collecting stamps?

Yes, you make a collection, a physical collection you can display, touch and bond with others over it.

I cannot believe you typed that with a straight face.

>No. 'Keeping out the normies' would mean never telling anyone about your scene because you don't want any new blood ever.

Wrong, it would mean not going to the local church baseball game and inviting them to your shitty punk rock show filled with drug abuse.
.
You seem not to know what friendship is, You would tell it to your friends not randoms.

>'Making sure only receptive people show up' would mean putting your scene out there in documentaries and interviews (like the ones you showed me) but putting up a disclaimer that you only want like-minded people to show up

Fuck no. That is very lame. How would that even be enforced? Are you a telepath? What if un-like minded people showed up because they thought it was cool but they are not cool themselves? What now? Its your scene just gonna be filled with uncool people? That is the exact thing you are complaining about, You know what happened to anime and nerd culture in general.
Use your brain man.

You seem not to know what friendship is, You would tell it to your friends not randoms.

> However, the fact that years later, you're here on an imageboard arguing with some random like me makes it very hard to believe you. (But I guess the fact that you keep mentioning George Bush is confirmation enough that you're old.)

It does not matter if you believe or not, are you a judge? Am I not guilty of being old? Why do you care?
Maybe if I mentioned Youtube you will think I am a zoomer, god I reaaaally love minecraft I am the zommiest zoomer, Maybe I should mention Ronald Reagan, actually no I know I will mention the 1800s west expansion that way you'll think I am really old, did you know I was around when the mongols invaded????

For fucks sake. Wojacks its all you deserve.

>Cool it with the psychoanalysis, guy. Like I said, I thought you were some kind of hypocrite, so I figured, 'What better way to cut him down to size than to throw his own words back in his face?'

So you could not come up with your own zingers just like you cannot come up with anything else worth being a part of, then you took something that you already saw it work through a glowing screen to have any chance to push the point that you have no friends and some random on the internet should isekai you world. Gotcha.

>But I was wrong, (maybe),so it doesn't really matter.

Are you wrong or not?
Why can't you just be a man about it? Why is it so hard for people like you to just grow as a human instead of doubling down on your errors? What would somebody you look up too do?(Which its gonna be an old guy since you don't know people in your generation worth looking up to, not because they don't exist, you're just not privy to them like with everything else)

>You mentioned sororities as an aside, so I just searched out collegiate discord servers in general.
So you thought you could just post a a link to a random online course?

So You're retarded? Gotcha.

>>5248

the used net wars its a funny name lol

Damn this was based

>>5310
You're just pozzed by the internet, you are not able of forming the brain connections to understand that people can interact outside of the wired and keep their things in their in group.

You re literally incapable of making those brain connections because you never saw it, it would be like if somebody told an isolated tribe that men can fly long distances like birds surrounded by steel, they can't even fathom the thought of that ever being something possible in reality due to their understanding of the world.

Its not your fault, you are just physically uncapable of doing it it.

>>5409
dam harsh but tru

Little did we know, this thread was an omen of things worse to come…

>>5542
But most importantly it was a call from the gods to strengthen our defence against the demonic forces of evil.
seriously though: maybe restrictions on the maximum amount of posts per day will prevent shit like this from happening in the future

>>5213
Funny that this is the only thread that made it

wonder if the boomer its still here

>>5244
The world exchanged rage comics for wojaks… I don't know how to feel about this decision that society made and if I should other way around to occur

>>5246

>1988 nowhere usa

>1;Hey guys do wanna check out this new japanese cartoon movie my neighbor totoro?

>2; Get outta here you weird faggot
>3; ewww this guys gross
>4; lol lets go play football
>1; but but *gets wedgied*
>3; lol nerd

This might as well be a Chad vs. Soyjak comic right here.

>>5214
soyjack exists since before 2010

>>5568
No.

>>5558
i want to kiss derpina gf on he feet.

>>5559
A tale as old as time is

>>5409
I will use that quote from now on.

Wirechan pearl.

This thread would have been a great discussion if there was mutual respect between the
interlocutors.
Instead, it was 30-70 useful information from someone with knowledge, and useless
insults… from the exact same person.

I collected pretty much all the things that should be taken away from this thread, so that
no one else has to go trough this clusterfuck.

>>Why is this meme still so popular?
>>5214
> Because it's the new form of propaganda.

>>5230
> The more forward you go in time, the less effort the same thing will take to produce.
> So to advance the subject, you'll have to come up with new things. Those will take more effort.

>>5230
> Cultures were shit, and are shit. Probably will be shit.
Or
> There's always something people of last gen were complaining about, times move forwards
accept it.
Honestly it goes either way.

>>multiple posts
> To find a worthy group/community, you have to genuinely find the hobby interesting and just do it yourself,
> as in actually work on something.
> With time you'll find the right people/communities that you're searching for.
> With more friends you all will do more things naturally, evolving the process.

>>5243
> Closed / tiny communities are *partly* good because of their size.
> Once they reach peak popularity many of the oldfags will consider it killed.
> Aka, it dies due to the changes all the newfags bring.

>>5256
> Hobbies that are worthy are the ones where you either/or physically create or bond over.
> This is how, and where the 'good' culture is.

>>5839
Mutual respect between 2 anonymous posters on the internet

HA nice joke faggot

For anybody else reading the thread lurking doesn't mean getting 2nd hand information from a single retard who "decided" what its useful information or not, it means looking for yourself and making your own mind up on things not getting fed the baby bottle with something someone else filled it instead of you.

>>5840
Bro why would I spend hours in an archive about a lost board culture from another decade just so that I can act mysteriously and say "lurk moar" to newfags, when I can also pretend to know everything already by replying things like "haha yeah that really was something back in the days" and mysteriously telling newfags to lurk moar?

>>5842
Why do you post here then? Why don't you post on r/lain or on a lain discord or facebook group, If the culture of the place doesn't mean any thing to you why post in a place which will be hostile to you?

Why do choose to post in a place that cares about its culture vs a place that does not care when you yourself does not care?

>>5839
Terrible.

Who appointed you as arbiter of truth?

>>5844
>>5840
>looking for yourself and making your own mind up

I did it, because I believe petty insults don't add to the information that is useful, in the sense that you learn from it.
I also omitted the parts about the past, since they were mostly there to back up statements. However I still put a
reference to the original post, in case someone reading would like to see the details, and conversation as it was.
You could say the roasts are still entertaining, but do you really think that's how people should talk with one another?

I also think op didn't deserve to be so belittled, and that the oldfag was being a prick to a way too extensive level.
It felt like a professor in power being overly a dick to a student for no other reason other then he's in the position
to be so.

Finally, if you think I missed anything, or interpreted them in a wrong way, you're free to extend my post.

>>5843
I like anonynimty and I dislike moderation.
I never said I didnt care about the culture, I said I dont give care about the long lost culture from half a decade ago. Just because 1 and a half faggots remember it and now think they would some kind of authority over it. Sounds more like you should go to r/lain as a moderator :3

>>5847
>I never said I didnt care about the culture
>I said I dont give care about the long lost culture
Lmao

>>5846
Yes lets streamline imageboards why read the posts at all we should just have synopses made by yours truly, and he will make sure to curate what is good or not(in his highly esteemed opinion of course) and put into the baby bottle for you, A true journalist if you will giving you the latest on what is good or not good. Why read when you can be spoonfed by somebody else baby bottle?

>You could say the roasts are still entertaining, but do you really think that's how people should talk with one another?

Faggiest thing ever wrote on wirechan and we had 2 giant tranny threads.

There is no people there is 2 anonymous posters and this is not real life they can talk in anyway they want. Whatever you and I think its irrelevant

>I also think op didn't deserve to be so belittled, and that the oldfag was being a prick to a way too extensive level.
>It felt like a professor in power being overly a dick to a student for no other reason other then he's in the position
to be so.
So what? Are you the white knight in shining armor who's gonna save the op in distress from the big bad troll? Fucking hell imagine being yourself.

>Finally, if you think I missed anything, or interpreted them in a wrong way, you're free to extend my post.
No because your post its inherently inane and personally humiliating behavior, i would not want to be associated supporting it in any way shape or form.

I do not wish to tell people what its right or wrong or what is a good or bad stretch of text in a thread they can read themselves, My curation its not the same as yours or the next man. If i do it its just gonna be another type of milk in the baby bottle.
The problem is not the milk but the fact that you think that you think that grown men rather have your "curated" resume of a thing they can read for themselves.

That is the whole point of imageboards so people can post and read posts you orangutan autistic retard. Why have post at all then, just make a blog where people can post and then after you delete all their posts and make a summary of it based on who you wish to protect from the big bad troll.

What happened to the internet Jesus fucking christ.

>>5848
Yes haha get fucked dinosaur, nobody cares about your washed out memories :3

>>5850
There you go, you're almost there maybe add a couple of suicide jokes and maybe a analogy or 2 and you will fit in wirechan quite easily I feel like.

We will make a old fag outta you.
Keep it going I believe in you!

>>5849
>why read the posts at… …we should just have synopses
If a given thread overtime becomes overly about shit flinging, instead of delving deeper into the core discussion, then yes.
It doesn't have to be me, or anyone specific, but I can see the value in condensing the information while unnecessary or even devaluing parts are left out.

>Why read when you can be spoonfed by somebody else baby bottle?
Exactly. While I think the sharty is an insanely disgusting and horrible place, one thing that still makes it uniquely interesting is it's wiki, which serves exactly this
purpose.

>There is no people there is 2 anonymous posters
That exact mentality is what's wrong with how people interact on the internet.
A basis for a productive discussion or argument is mutual respect between the participants, both online and afk.
This is the reason why we cannot have a proper argument with people that actually results in both sides, the very least understanding each other's
points - or dare I say even say - consider that the other side might actually have a good argument, that might make them learn a thing or two
which would help when evaluating their own values/beliefs.
You arguing that this is the way to go, is just the right way to devolve any community to become just another twitter, reddit or 4chan circle jerk.

>Whatever you and I think its irrelevant
This is the exact thing we're arguing about. If what you think is irrelevant, then why did you even reply to me?

>Are you the white knight in shining armor
My intention was more about taking the value Dr.Prick provided, so that less people need to read his original posts.
Aka taking away from him, not to explicitly defend op.

While that being the case, on a different note:
Who are you to tell me that I cannot defend someone in argument?
If I think someone is being treated in a cruel way with no good reason, then as long as I have free speech, I'm completely free to call it out.
Your attempt at ridiculing my behavior is pathetic.

>you think that you think that grown men rather have your "curated" resume
I did what I think is right, what others decide to do is up to them, all I did was provide a new option for the readers.

>the whole point of imageboards so people can post and read posts
And I stopped their ability to exactly that how? By giving them an option to read less, but also giving them a reference to the source?

>Why have post at all then, just make a blog where people can post and then after you delete all their posts and make a summary
Have you ever heard of a chan, that auto deletes threads after they fall off the 10th page?
Have you ever seen a screencap of a good post, that was lost due to the aforementioned reason?
(With obviously some posts left out, and mostly just being a compilation of the posts that made the thread good.)
Are you seeing my point?


In any case, the way I see it you failed to provide any solid arguments against my original post, seeing that in short your arguments are:
"You shouldn't tell people what's right or wrong, despite me agreeing that the contents of your shortened version is correct!"
(While assuming it is self evident why that is bad.)
"You shouldn't let people learn things from an easier, secondary source than the primary source!"
(Again, failing to provide a basis for why that's poor practice.)
"You shouldn't tell people to not be mean to each other, because it doesn't matter that you think that!"
(That's just your opinion. In which you don't even believe yourself.)

>>5862
>despite me agreeing that the contents of your shortened version is correct!
quote what made you think that

>failing to provide a basis for why that's poor practice
Because the secondary source is biased and it will always be.
As you said yourself you were against the labeled "dr prick" from the start
>Aka taking away from him, not to explicitly defend op.
All hail the arbiter of truth

>That exact mentality is what's wrong with how people interact on the internet.
No, it what makes it different from real life.

>I did what I think is right, what others decide to do is up to them,
Thanks Mr hitler! It makes it much better now that you explained your reasoning for what you did.

>in which you don't even believe yourself
Quote what made you think that

>why did you even reply to me?
its a thread on the internet i can post reply and do whatever i want

oaifhsoihjafoiudhasoiuhda nigger asss

See example above^ Somebody read that and they can decide for themselves what to make of it.

>a chan
A chan is not a forum that is the whole point of it, that some things are temporary and you had to be there there are other websites that are forums.
Giant Retard take constituting 0 knowledge of common internet webspaces so glad its you doing it the self embarassment god forbid i would have to come up with another joke for this post.

> then as long as I have free speech, I'm completely free to call it out.
You can white knight and i can ridicule you, people can read and make up their minds for themselves on what is pathetic and correct.

I am satisfied with this agreement we have reached.

Please make a blog making synopses of every chan thread you come along. The Charbiter.

>>5839
>>5862
>>5846


FI FA FO FUM i smell a neurodivergent among us
why the fuck would you post these lamaaoooo
nice job retard you just became part of the culture.

Legendary thread

>>5863
>Because the secondary source is biased and it will always be.
>As you said yourself you were against the labeled "dr prick" from the start

I think this is a /thread

Include me on the screenshot

>>5864
>>5865
You are sooooo retarded it's not even funny. This website has NO culture, has NO history, has NO old fags, and has NEVER had screenshots because there has NEVER and I mean NEVER been a worthwhile post here. NEITHER for its absurdity NOR its usefulness. NOTHING funny happens. NOTHING good happens. This whole website revolves around RETARDS like you who either SQUEAL at others to commit suicide or CIRCLEJERK over shit NOBODY cares about until their dicks fall off. You want sooooo bad to be like the old 4chan, but you will NEVER have even HALF the culture of TRUMP ERA 4chan. This place is a CESS PIT, a fucking CESS PIT, and YOU are DROWNING in it. Consider this the FIRST good post on this GOD FORSAKEN site. Peace out, losers.

>>5866

Love it. Agreed, what a shambles.

>>5866
>>5867

Another one bites the dust

Breakdowns like these its what the internet its made for.

Include me on the screencap

>>5866
You were doing so good, what happened bro? You magnificent bastards you done broke it again. Total wirechan victory.

>>5866
You can post anything and people who think they're smart just give out free (You)s for it.

>>5866
ANOTHER ONE ANOTHER ONE
ANOTHER ONE
>>5871
Using (you)s as a upvote system, this actually made me laugh IRL for a good min lol, lets collectively imagine the poster behind this one lmao

>>5872
You can post anything and people who think they're smart just give out free (You)s for it.

>>5866

This thread is the gift that keeps giving

the only universally inoffensive memes were Ragecomics.

>>5866
VCXL is that u?

>>5879
No way, he was both avatar fagging and name fagging.There's no way he'd be satisfied with anonymity, not nearly enough attention.