/alt/ - Anomalous

ww3 its far gone over the threat of a nuclear winter, nowaydays having nukes is mostly to get in the kool kids klub

covid shit its just covid shit, blacks were burning cities down a while ago and now nothings really changed, probably the same with these protests.

nato-russia/china will never really fight each other
directly ,they'll just pick a random 3rd world and proxy fight over it, while trying to propaganda the other side into being more like them. Eternal cold war.

(thats it until china reaches critical population mass)

The key is to focus on yourself and live outside of the matrix as much as possible, this world can't be saved, but some people can.

>>68
>ww3 its far gone over the threat of a nuclear winter, nowaydays having nukes is mostly to get in the kool kids klub
Even if the probability of someone using nukes is small, they still have a significant effect on geopolitics. If one country has superior nuclear missile technology that could potentially evade enemy defenses, they definitely have an advantage that has an impact on tactical situations even if the nukes are not actually used.
>covid shit its just covid shit, blacks were burning cities down a while ago and now nothings really changed, probably the same with these protests.
A lot has changed behind the scenes but it takes time for those changes to manifest physically, potentially many years. Quick changes are also possible, Australia is a good example.

>the body was too long
wtf how tiny is the limit?

>>68
>nato-russia/china will never really fight each other directly ,they'll just pick a random 3rd world and proxy fight over it, while trying to propaganda the other side into being more like them. Eternal cold war.
In Europe there is an ongoing conflict between Russian and Ukrainian forces, which began in 2014:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War
Right now Poland has moved troops to the Belarusian border because Belarus (potentially in co-operation with Russia) is flooding immigrants to EU as a war tactic. The situation is tense and other European countries are also reacting to the situation:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/11/11/world/belarus-poland-border-migrants
>(thats it until china reaches critical population mass)
They already have a lot of population, I don't think it matters. Economics play a big role, they currently can't afford a long, hot war.
>The key is to focus on yourself and live outside of the matrix as much as possible, this world can't be saved, but some people can.
This is the solution up to a certain point. History will show you that there will be a point when the government becomes tyrannical and it is capable of hunting down those who live outside the system.
The key is in fighting back and protecting your freedom and rights before it's too late.

>>70
nukes are just an safety net to not get steam rolled too bad, also the reason current nk will never fall, they might change but never fall.

niggas are still getting capped in da street by cops and probably will for a long time unless there is some major cultural change, there is civilized places in africa like gabon, cape verde and botswana where niggas aint getting bucked because the culture its vastly different.
bogans are the underclass in australia and the majority of the protests they barely matter in the grand scheme of things. yea you get the vax or you dont, but you defnitely work 40yrs a week on a funko pop warehouse.

poland is a 3rd world country and ukraine has been trying to get into NATO since forever for basically immunity against russia, france and germany are the only ones that really matter in the EU everybody else follows suit.

china is mostly empty landmass 98% of the pop lives cluttered in the south, china can literally stop shipping shit to a designated country and make their inflation raise exponentially, western countries cant afford a fast, cold war like that.

when the romans fell they just made new countries, why would you try to save your rights in a declining empire?


the world its balancing on a very small tip, each power wants the balance to be on their favor but if its too much the balance breaks and its game over, thats why you live in a small apartament making 8.50 per hour and vegetate in front of your glowing screen, you are happy and sedated but not powerful enough to tip the balance in any direction.

Work talk with work buddies about netflix go home, get high, watch netflix, repeat. satisfied and powerless youre happy arent you?

>>70
>poland is a 3rd world country
I stopped reading there. I'll wait for higher IQ anons to join the discussion.

>>67

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Okay but I don't see the problem. I mean the worst possible is this world following the path along it's been taking for a few decades. I mean our money loses worth, drinking water is being stolen even in 1st world countries like france which makes areas dry out. CCTV is increasing and people are more and more consuming digital or logical (nonexisting) products that should be free.
Sure it would suck for us if the shit goes down. I wouldn't want my mother to starve or my brother to be killed by raiders. But I want my grandchildren to live in a better world that is focussing on technology that could make live better for all and not for some better by making it worse for others.

>>67

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I recently had a very interesting thought. If we look at all of the countries we'll notice, that especially the democratic countries can't change shit, no matter who gets elected, their time in power is very limited, so they can't forge longterm plans. China made a longterm plan and is succeeding. Obviously we don't like china to be superior as they are even more controlling than the western countries.
So who could really change the world for good without ripping everything appart first?
I thought of only one group who could and they are the worst enemy: Amazon.
Now Amazon is investing into food market, they automate everything and become a wholesome place for everything you need to live and that as far as possible automated.
Imagine amazon would rule the world, which they could logically do, if countries fail and if they don't get taken over by some chinese equivalent.
Now look at this hypothetical model:

>>67

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For 3k USD per month you can get amazon premium, which allows you to get everything you need for free. Clothes, food, electronic devices and so on. Cars and such as well but only rented. Even housing. Due to their CCTV you wouldn't start to sell or give away free products to friends.
Now imagine this: If you are too poor, you can upgrade to amazon premium for the cost of you fertility (only if you don't have offspring yet or max 1 kin and the partner does it as wel).
Within a few generations you'd decrease the worlds population by a whole lot, most poor countries would be basically empty and there would be more than enough for everyone, while automation makes it possible that nobody really needs to work more than 10/20 hours a week. maybe even not at all.
Yes that would be cruel and ethnically reprehensible, but what solution to our worlds problems wouldn't? And this one would guarantee a (more or less ) voluntary solution, while giving the heroes, who let go off their balls happy last years.
Our political models are not made to change the world, they are made to keep the wealth to the rich because it's been the rich who established everything. But that was a time in which a world without work was unthinkable. It isn't now. Full automation is possible and I bet you'd find more than enough voluntary people who manage the rest of the work, like a little farming or IT business. What if amazon would follow a goal like that. Would they be the ultimate evil or the ultimate good? What would you think about that? Because if you think about it, they could.

>>72
any working class neighborhood in the west its above poland, unless youre counting really fucked up places like glasgow or detroit, pretty much any ex soviet country its a couple decades behind most western countries, though poland is more like 2nd world more akin to something like south america or the nice parts of africa.

>>71
and the solution to that is?

>>71
>>72
>>76
>poland
>not a shit hole

lmao

>>73

Technology its a double edged sword one on one hand it would solve a lot of things but on the other hand, theres the question of individual personality too, in our current world there is a diffrence in personality form a f150 owner to a ferrari owner, if every body has the exact same things individuality is lost, granted there are alot of truck and ferrari owners but as population grows the sizes of a groump get smaller and spread out causing some semblance of individuality or at least a social group, urban tribes, subculture, competition its the basis of american(modern western) theres something for everybodys tastes, also people love just fucking love being the alpha/elite group, people would spent hundreds on expensive clothing just because they feel superior about it, big houses, there was atime where black people where i live would spent half of their paychecks on rims for beat up old cars, ma italian cabinets and such.

We would have to literally rewire the human brain to get rid of the cavemen competitiveness aspect, which they might as well be trying to do lol. But i feel most people would rather die than to live dehumanized likle that.


>>72
You must be a pole or a not well traveled person,
Poland its a tard containment country, its wealthy(population comparatively) but still a shithole, it reminds of LA a bit.

>>73
>>74
>>75
There is plenty of active work happening to establish a system that is similar to what you described.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Reset
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Industrial_Revolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Global_Leaders
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_Development_Goals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Build_Back_Better_Plan
https://europa.eu/next-generation-eu/index_en
Pay special attention to the idea of a "stakeholder economy" and its criticism:
>Schwab as publisher of the World Economic Forum's 2010 "Global Redesign" report postulates that a globalized world is best managed by a coalition of multinational corporations, governments (including through the UN system) and select civil society organizations (CSOs). It argues that governments no longer are "the overwhelmingly dominant actors on the world stage" and that “the time has come for a new stakeholder paradigm of international governance”. The WEF's vision includes a "public-private" UN, in which certain specialized agencies would operate under joint State and non-State governance systems.
>According to the Transnational Institute (TNI), the Forum is hence planning to replace a recognised democratic model with a model where a self-selected group of "stakeholders" make decisions on behalf of the people. The think tank summarises that we are increasingly entering a world where gatherings such as Davos are "a silent global coup d'etat" to capture governance.
This globalist coup attempt is happening right now. It is called "conspiracy theory" but they are very open about their goals. Researching the ideology of these people and their networks gives you a good perspective on what is happening in the EU, and what they are also trying to establish in the States.
>>76
>any working class neighborhood in the west its above poland, unless youre counting really fucked up places like glasgow or detroit, pretty much any ex soviet country its a couple decades behind most western countries, though poland is more like 2nd world more akin to something like south america or the nice parts of africa.
>>78
>poland
>not a shit hole
>lmao
>>79
>You must be a pole or a not well traveled person,
>Poland its a tard containment country, its wealthy(population comparatively) but still a shithole, it reminds of LA a bit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Poland
>The country represents the greatest success story of all the post-communist states. Its economy was the only one in the EU to avoid a recession through the 2007–08 economic downturn. As of 2019, the Polish economy had been growing steadily for 28 years, a record high in the EU. This record was only surpassed by Australia in the world economy. GDP per capita at purchasing power parity has grown on average by 6% p.a. over the last 20 years, the most impressive performance in Central Europe. The country increased its GDP seven-fold since 1990.
>Poland is classified as a high-income economy by the World Bank (anon's note: this classification is used interchangeably with the term "first-world country"), ranking 19th worldwide in terms of GDP (PPP) and 22nd in terms of GDP (nominal). Poland has a highly diverse economy that ranks 21st in the 2017 Economic Complexity Index.
>Poland has seen the largest increase in GDP per capita (more than 100%) both among the former Eastern Bloc countries, and compared to the EU-15 (around 45%). It has had uninterrupted economic growth since 1992, even after the 2007 financial crisis.
Poland's poverty is more noticable the more you go east in the country, those areas suffered from communism the most. Poland's economy is decent, obviously not as good as western-European countries but more than enough to make it geopolitically significant for Europe if Poland was under attack.
Poland's armed forces also boast decent capabilities, ranked at number 6 out of 35 European countries.
https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-europe.php
https://www.globalfirepower.com/country-military-strength-detail.php?country_id=poland
Comparing the ongoing Poland-Belarus tensions to a proxy war in a third world country is simply laughable and portrays a complete lack of awareness of the situation. That is why I said I'll wait for higher IQ anons to join the discussion, an analysis of the situation requires an open mind and wits. The situation is complex and all European countries are reacting and increasing their military readiness.
And no, I am not Polish.

>>80
so not well travelled then, if i had money i would pay you to go to poland to see also lol wikipedia article, such high iq god bless you maybe you save the planet with your magnificent brain of course our majesty its so above everybody else havent you seen the emperors new clothes?

>>81
Oh, allow us pray for thou, mere mortal!
I, the king of all kings declare thou mere mortal, anon,
with the assistance of mine gigantic brain that God almighty hath graced me,
a ten thousand-fold mega faggot!
For thou hast strayed from the path, the divine light of truth, descending to mere spleen and insults!
Oh, allow us all pray together for thou, anon,
for thou hast strayed from the path.

>>71
Nuclear war is a thing of the past, biogenocide its where we die, i would also add spain to the list of EU countries that matter.

>>80
LOL you've never been to poland, so what city hipsters have tons of money? so does stan country ruled by oil barons, you get all your info from your glowing screen, have some real life experiences before you talk shit and post wikipedia articles.

T.pole

>>67
we do live in clown world but i have no idea how to fix it, going back to olden days seems so idealistic but also so regressive

>>80
its amazing how all the tards sound the same, you have this completely anonymous place and these spergs still manage to come out full force, you might as well tripfag as highiq42069, you coudve easily stay hidden but now your walls of text copy and pasted from wikipedia are gonna be on the internet forever, autism its truly a super power, also stop making those drawing threads nobody cares

>>84
There is no fixing this current day, we live in the most decadent of times. The only thing we have left is to wait for collapse in society. Everyone is only focused on the material things, and consooming. When the real answers are in your mind, in your soul.
I'd go as far as to say we live in a bronze age, can't you see how idiotized people live nowadays? It's like we live in the medieval times, except religions are going out of fashion, and social media are being used for mind controlling and morale establishment.

>>83
>LOL you've never been to poland, so what city hipsters have tons of money? so does stan country ruled by oil barons, you get all your info from your glowing screen, have some real life experiences before you talk shit and post wikipedia articles.
>T.pole
I said that Poland has a decent enough economy and armed forces to make it geopolitically significant for
Europe as a whole if Poland got into a war. Nothing I said has anything to do with "city hipsters having tons of money".
>>84
>its amazing how all the tards sound the same, you have this completely anonymous place and these spergs still manage to come out full force, you might as well tripfag as highiq42069, you coudve easily stay hidden but now your walls of text copy and pasted from wikipedia are gonna be on the internet forever, autism its truly a super power, also stop making those drawing threads nobody cares
Sometimes imageboards are great. Someone who is on the same wavelength as you joins the discussion. You connect and share your thoughts and insights to each other. You feel connected and inspired by some random anon from the other side of the world. In the best case scenario those beautiful moments stay with you for the rest of your life.
Sometimes imageboards are not so great. You try to express your thoughts in a clear way to initiate a discussion. An anon enters and completely either ignores or fails to understand the content of your posts and the thread gets filled with angry insults and white noise.
All I can gather from your message is that my comment about IQ probably made you feel inferior, perhaps powerless, which in turn made you angry. Your post brings absolutely nothing of value to this thread (or Wirechan in general), quite the opposite. You did not respond to any of the content of my post, instead you chose to churn out a weak attack on my character.
I made this thread to initiate discussion about the potential of a third world war, and make people consider that maybe it has already started. The world is different from what it was 80 years ago and wars are also fought differently.
When I made the thread I was not looking for endless fighting about Poland's economy. This thread is more about geopolitics and war in the modern world.

>>86
new pasta nice

>>86
lmao you turbo autist godspeed (@ @)
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>>86
Have a great day.

>>71
china has enough land mass to fill its populations size x20 they just dont have the resources


>>86
see >>72

>>90
I dont think planet earth has enough resources for that

>>87
>>88
>>89
I tip my fedora and wish you a nice day too!
>>90
>see 64
It just seemed so dumb to me in that context to compare a potential conflict involving Poland to a proxy war in a third world country and brush off Ukraine as irrelevant, I felt like my reaction was justified. I try to be less harsh next time.

Anyway, some interesting news:
Croatian volunteers have formed a batallion to protect the people from Covid tyranny and globalist interests:
https://www.jutarnji.hr/video/news/presuceni-mars-1-dragovoljacke-bojne-stupali-od-tomislavca-do-trga-i-vikali-u-boj-u-boj-15123787
Video of their march during the WorldWide Demonstration 5.0:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2BwXIYOIxA
President of Croatia called out Austria for their mandatory vaccine policies and other extreme covid measures, comparing them to fascism. Austrian Ministry of Foreign affairs invited a Croatian ambassador to give an explanation.
https://rs.n1info.com/region/zbog-izjava-milanovica-oko-austrijskih-kovid-mera-ambasador-pozvan-na-razgovor/

Ukrainian intelligence (supported by U.S. intelligence) stated that Russia is planning to attack around late January or early February:
https://www.militarytimes.com/flashpoints/2021/11/20/russia-preparing-to-attack-ukraine-by-late-january-ukraine-defense-intelligence-agency-chief/
Russia has denied these allegations:
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/11/22/russia-spy-agency-dismisses-claims-of-ukraine-invasion-plan-a75634

The situation in Australia is getting more worrying, the aboriginal communities are asking for international help. Apparently they are now having science-juice forcefully injected into them with the help of the military and some are taken to the camps. Predicted by tinfoils some weeks ago…
https://twitter.com/UK__Citizen/status/1463439160782561283
https://twitter.com/thirdeyewide7/status/1463452328032276485
Michael Gunner's official explanations of the situation are not very convinving to me. Like, not at all convincing:
https://twitter.com/AnonCitizenUK/status/1463891928735531012

>>92
>I try to be less harsh next time.

why were you being harsh in the first place retard?

>I felt like my reaction was justified
nobody cares about what you feel its an anonymous place you want to protect your ego go to a forum

nobody its gonna take anything you say seriously anymore please leave the thread and let the high emotional iq anons debate

>>86
Lmao

>>86

Congratulations 2+ for your body count i guess